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Old 11-12-08, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default virgin internal memo....dodgy boxes.

just received this.....worth a read
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In November we let you know how we're kicking fraud to the gutter and
tackling the use of unauthorised set-top boxes, now take a look inside the
day of our biggest operation to date...
Location: East London and Essex. Operation 'Koblenz' Brief: Following a
seven month investigation, a company called 'Rayyonics' has been identified
as a major distributor of unauthorised set-top boxes, thought to be
distributing thousands of boxes to consumers every week. Today's operation
will consist of synchronised raids targeting five residences and the
Rayyonics business unit. Team status: Ready for action! (and slightly cold
and hungry).
05:00 - The team get in gear and head to the police station for the final
pre- operation brief. They'll be split into five teams, made up of Police
Officers and the Virgin team ready to make the early morning raids.

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
06:00 - Teams assembled, they head to the five addresses, collated by our
Investigations and Intelligence team through research and analysis with
warrants issued by local magistrates courts.

06:30 -'GO, GO, GO.' the teams storm their allocated premises. The six
suspects are read their rights and arrested for, 'Conspiracy to defraud
Virgin Media' and are taken into custody (or 'the bin' in police lingo).

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
07:30 - A full search of the main player's house reveals over 90,000 in
cash and a huge amount of other evidence relating the offences that are
under investigation. For now, the money is collected, counted, photographed
and seized along with all the other evidence recovered.
08:30 - The 'key holder' to the business premises is cuffed and taken in
Police transport to the Rayyonics business unit to open up the premises
where around 2600 unauthorised set-top boxes are discovered.
<<...OLE_Obj...>>
09:00 - Cops on Camera - the Police 'Scenes of Crime' unit arrives and films
the property's contents ahead of the full search of the warehouse. Reports
come in that valuable evidence has been seized at the other addresses raided
and is being taken back to the Police station.

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
10:30 - Two more suspects are escorted to the premises to identify property.
The Virgin Media team commence a detailed search of the building and start
to seize and preserve evidence. As the morning progresses it comes to light
that there is a further warehouse containing even more boxes.

12:00 - The Police financial investigators arrive on the scene to commence a
detailed examination of all potential financial evidence. There is also
evidence of an array of luxury goods, bought by the company Director over
the last few months. The police will go to court later this week with the
intention to freeze a selection of the assets identified.
(12:15 - Quick re-fuel and bacon buttie stop)

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
12:30 - The Virgin Media cavalry arrives to start taking away the seized set
top boxes, they're loaded into vans and taken away where they'll be securely
stored as evidence.

14:00 - Some of the team head over to the second warehouse where a
further1,900 boxes are found and seized by our guys.
15:00 - Rendezvous at the police station to interview the suspects. Each
person will be questioned by the Virgin Media team and the Police, long into
the night...

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
22:30 - Interviews done, the suspects are bailed pending further enquiries
into the offences they've been arrested for. It's back for a good nights
sleep before they head back to the nic tomorrow for a de-brief with the
police officers.
So how did we get here?
It's taken seven months of in depth investigation to get the team ready for
full roll out of operation Koblenz, with the entire team having a part to
play in the development of this case. It's been a great step for Virgin
Media.
On the day, Inspector Steve Edwards said, "We're very pleased with the way
the operation has gone so far. We've achieved our objectives, the subjects
have been identified, the evidence has been obtained and the process is
going well. It'll now be a question of looking at what we've got, assessing
from there and concluding with a successful prosecution."
The Investigations & Intelligence Team, echoed the Inspector's comments,
saying, "Now that the principle subjects have been arrested, we'll continue
to collate evidence to compile a case against them. The forensic
investigation could take months, so the hard work has only just begun!"
It's also hoped that the knock on effect from this operation will help
identify more suspects in the supply chain and lead us to the main source of
production abroad. The suspects have now been released on Police bail and
are due to answer bail at the Police station in March where there'll be more
interviews, so we'll let you know how we get on next year...
If you want to find out more about the Group Security team and what they get
up to, And if you know of any fraudulent activity, you can get in touch with us via
Speak Out. It's confidential and safe and we'll always take what you say
seriously. You can even get in touch with us anonymously if you want
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just received this.....worth a read
---
In November we let you know how we're kicking fraud to the gutter and
tackling the use of unauthorised set-top boxes, now take a look inside the
day of our biggest operation to date...
Location: East London and Essex. Operation 'Koblenz' Brief: Following a
seven month investigation, a company called 'Rayyonics' has been identified
as a major distributor of unauthorised set-top boxes, thought to be
distributing thousands of boxes to consumers every week. Today's operation
will consist of synchronised raids targeting five residences and the
Rayyonics business unit. Team status: Ready for action! (and slightly cold
and hungry).
05:00 - The team get in gear and head to the police station for the final
pre- operation brief. They'll be split into five teams, made up of Police
Officers and the Virgin team ready to make the early morning raids.

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
06:00 - Teams assembled, they head to the five addresses, collated by our
Investigations and Intelligence team through research and analysis with
warrants issued by local magistrates courts.

06:30 -'GO, GO, GO.' the teams storm their allocated premises. The six
suspects are read their rights and arrested for, 'Conspiracy to defraud
Virgin Media' and are taken into custody (or 'the bin' in police lingo).

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
07:30 - A full search of the main player's house reveals over 90,000 in
cash and a huge amount of other evidence relating the offences that are
under investigation. For now, the money is collected, counted, photographed
and seized along with all the other evidence recovered.
08:30 - The 'key holder' to the business premises is cuffed and taken in
Police transport to the Rayyonics business unit to open up the premises
where around 2600 unauthorised set-top boxes are discovered.
<<...OLE_Obj...>>
09:00 - Cops on Camera - the Police 'Scenes of Crime' unit arrives and films
the property's contents ahead of the full search of the warehouse. Reports
come in that valuable evidence has been seized at the other addresses raided
and is being taken back to the Police station.

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
10:30 - Two more suspects are escorted to the premises to identify property.
The Virgin Media team commence a detailed search of the building and start
to seize and preserve evidence. As the morning progresses it comes to light
that there is a further warehouse containing even more boxes.

12:00 - The Police financial investigators arrive on the scene to commence a
detailed examination of all potential financial evidence. There is also
evidence of an array of luxury goods, bought by the company Director over
the last few months. The police will go to court later this week with the
intention to freeze a selection of the assets identified.
(12:15 - Quick re-fuel and bacon buttie stop)

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
12:30 - The Virgin Media cavalry arrives to start taking away the seized set
top boxes, they're loaded into vans and taken away where they'll be securely
stored as evidence.

14:00 - Some of the team head over to the second warehouse where a
further1,900 boxes are found and seized by our guys.
15:00 - Rendezvous at the police station to interview the suspects. Each
person will be questioned by the Virgin Media team and the Police, long into
the night...

<<...OLE_Obj...>>
22:30 - Interviews done, the suspects are bailed pending further enquiries
into the offences they've been arrested for. It's back for a good nights
sleep before they head back to the nic tomorrow for a de-brief with the
police officers.
You can check out more photos from Op Koblenz by taking a look at our photo
gallery. <http://virginmediahome/photos/photo.pl?path=fixing_fraud>
So how did we get here?
It's taken seven months of in depth investigation to get the team ready for
full roll out of operation Koblenz, with the entire team having a part to
play in the development of this case. It's been a great step for Virgin
Media.
On the day, Inspector Steve Edwards said, "We're very pleased with the way
the operation has gone so far. We've achieved our objectives, the subjects
have been identified, the evidence has been obtained and the process is
going well. It'll now be a question of looking at what we've got, assessing
from there and concluding with a successful prosecution."
The Investigations & Intelligence Team, echoed the Inspector's comments,
saying, "Now that the principle subjects have been arrested, we'll continue
to collate evidence to compile a case against them. The forensic
investigation could take months, so the hard work has only just begun!"
It's also hoped that the knock on effect from this operation will help
identify more suspects in the supply chain and lead us to the main source of
production abroad. The suspects have now been released on Police bail and
are due to answer bail at the Police station in March where there'll be more
interviews, so we'll let you know how we get on next year...
If you want to find out more about the Group Security team and what they get
up to, And if you know of any fraudulent activity, you can get in touch with us via
Speak Out. It's confidential and safe and we'll always take what you say
seriously. You can even get in touch with us anonymously if you want
If boxes are new and in box they aren't illegal , so firm have done nothing wrong .


However if firm daft enough to sell boxes which have been upgraded to accept illegal viewing , have only themseleves to blame.

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Old 11-12-08, 05:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Lol is all i can say to that, to many inconsistencies for my liking,yes it happend,but as its printed there?? nah i dont think so

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hello out there

if they raided rayonics and there officies they would have all the address of supplyers/people that bought the boxes off them
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Old 11-12-08, 05:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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LOl _I'm sure it is not illegal to sell them as it's just a bit of kit that depends on end-user if ever connected to anything. I'm sure it is breach of contract for end user not to delete the channels they ain't paid for, but would require a warrant and police to break the door down while you just sit watching unpaid for to prove it.

Boxes do not send out active signals, they just interpret the cable feed that VM are thowing down every line and listen for you.
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Rayyonics - Dodgy ?

this news is on a old thread!!!!
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Yep old news just another bull crap thread.
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Yep old news just another bull crap thread.
An interesting and helpful post that pushed the debate on YAWN
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Why thank you kind sir.
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Another helpful piece of wisdom - you're on form tonight
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