Samsung 2100c With NT1 Card

[Verbalvolley]

Hi
I am new to all this, I have a techy background and I have been "lumbered" with sorting our boxes out now our old supplier has hung up his card reader, I have a NT1 card and a samsung 2100c box which is already chipped this box never suffers from the usual blips we see with the funcard ones. But New Years Day the thing went off and all i can get is the FTA channels.

I am armed with a usb infinity programmer and the NT1 card which has two sets of characters written on the back of it the 1st one is 9 characters and the 2nd is 11 characters im assuming that these are the BK and the ird would I be right and if so which is which?

I have searched the forums but not knowing fully what i am looking at or what i need next is driving me up the wall!

I have got to the download links and seen the various tuts and stuff but i am unsure of the type of card i have, would i just follow a funcard tut? and if so would it continue to be a unaffected card and box?

Sorry if this is tedious question asking but it would help alot.

many thanks

[kid_warrior]

Originally Posted by Verbalvolley

I have a NT1 card and a samsung 2100c box??

I am armed with a usb infinity programmer and the NT1 card which has two sets of characters written on the back of it the 1st one is 9 characters and the 2nd is 11 characters im assuming that these are the BK and the ird would I be right and if so which is which?

I have searched the forums but not knowing fully what i am looking at or what i need next is driving me up the wall!

I have got to the download links and seen the various tuts and stuff but i am unsure of the type of card i have, would i just follow a funcard tut? and if so would it continue to be a unaffected card and box?

Sorry if this is tedious question asking but it would help alot.

many thanks

Your saying you have an NTL Card, it's either a Rom 10 or a Rom 11?


The IRD has 8 characters and the Box Key has 16 characters (not the characters you assume) ???

I think you need to look for the NOVICE ANGEL GUIDE in the downloads links

[yusuf_gaz]

Hi

Oops pressed the thanks butto instead of reply lol, anyway tried to answer this last night and the battery on lappie ran out.

Ird would be 8 characters and bk 16 so dont know what you got there.
You could try reading the ntl card in nagredit and see if its open and can get bk and ird that way you will also know what rom10/11 and rev of card.

Ird is not a problem, maybe the bk is written under box have a look. If it dont and yu cant get ito card you will have to unloop card or jtag to get details.

Regards

[Verbalvolley]

Hi thanksfor your replys, i have nagra edit but i cannot get it to open com port the reading that i saw in faq for nagraedit says that it does not support usb is there a work around or do i need a different programmer.

thanks in advance

[kid_warrior]

Originally Posted by Verbalvolley

Hi thanksfor your replys, i have nagra edit but i cannot get it to open com port the reading that i saw in faq for nagraedit says that it does not support usb is there a work around or do i need a different programmer.

thanks in advance

You Need To Read This Mate..

General
The VCP - Virtual COMport - mode of the Infinity USB Unlimited, makes it possible to use software that would normally require a serial COMport-based Phoenix or Smartmouse interface.


Installing the VCP
The VCP is part of the setup file for Infinity USB Unlimited (from v2.50 and up) and the necessary drivers and setup will be done automatically when installing the Infinity USB Unlimited software.


Enabling and setting up the VCP mode
In the "Tools" menu of the Infinity USB Unlimited, choose "Virtual COM port (VCP) mode", and the following setup-window will appear:

First, choose the basic settings:

COMport Choose which port to create. Ports already existing on the PC (most PCs have a COM1 and COM2 port), are marked with [!]. This doesn't mean you cannot use them though, if you choose a port marked with [!], the existing port will be disabled, and the VCP will take over it's place. When you exit VCP mode, the VCP will be disabled and the previous port enabled again.
When choosing a COMport it is recommended to use a port that is not already in use (for instance COM3 if not marked by [!]) but some 3rd party software limits the available ports to COM1-COM4, or even only COM1 or COM2, so that may not be possible.

Reset-polarity Choose Phoenix or Smartmouse reset-polarity (Phoenix is most typical).

Frequency Choose the frequency that matches the card you wish to use, and the frequency the 3rd party software expects. This will typically be 3.579MHz (3.58MHz). For special cards or experimentation, choose "userdefined", and enter the frequency in Hz below (1000000Hz = 1MHz). Any frequency between 760000 (760kHz) and 25000000 (25MHz) can be chosen. Do not choose a high frequency (>10MHz) unless you're certain the card can tolerate it.

Transparent boost Increases the communication speed and therefore the overall programming speed, by equally increasing frequency and baudrate. This will be completely transparent to the 3rd party software used, and no changes are therefore required in the 3rd party software settings, to increase the speed.
If for instance a SIMcard is to be accessed by Phonefile, choose a COM port, reset-polarity (Smartmouse) and frequency (3.579MHz) as usual. Then change the transparent boost slider to for instance 2.0.
You'll see that the frequency next to the ratio, will be changed to "2.0 x (7.516MHz)" (2 * 3,579MHz), but the baudrate chosen by the 3rd party software (typically 9600bps) will also be changed by the VCP to twice the normal speed (or whichever ratio has been chosen).
The 3rd party software will connect to the VCP as usual (at 3.579MHz / 9600bps) but the card will actually be accessed by the programmer at 7.516MHz / 19200bps.

The maximum speed depends on the card and the 3rd party software. Tests have shown that most OS cards only works below 8MHz (boost 2.1 or less), while SIM cards work fine up to boost 3.0.
This setting is for advanced or experimenting users, so use it only if you're certain the card can tolerate the higher frequency.

VCP settings Making an easy to use yet compatible VCP is very complex due to the very high combinations of different cards and 3rd party software. In the Infinity USB Unlimited VCP, it is therefore possible to choose between a number of profiles, that closely matches specific cards or software.
Since some cards need very specific timing, especially in regards to trapping the card, the VCP actually analyzes all data going from and to the card, and intercepts and modifies certain trap sequences. The VCP can also override the timeout values setup in the 3rd party software and override/predefine the COMport pins normally used on a serial-based Phoenix/Smartmouse interface.
Choosing any other profiles than "Custom" will preset all Timeout values and Port flowcontrol states so they work with the specific card.

Choose the profile that closest matches your card. If the card is not listed, choose "Default". The "Custom" setting is only for very experienced users, and explained further below. Logging can be enabled if you wish to see what's going on "behing the scene" or if you experience a problem and wish to use the log for finding the cause. Enabling the VCP log will open a separate log window.

Press "Enable" when everything has been setup. The LED on the Infinity USB Unlimited will turn purple, and the Infinity USB Unlimited software will be minimized to the systray:

By rightclicking the blue Infinity USB Unlimited icon, you can exit VCP mode (or the entire Infinity USB Unlimited software which will also close the VCP), or you can change the VCP settings. Changing the VCP settings can even be done "on the fly" (while 3rd party software has opened the Virtual COMport and is communicating with the smartcard).


Using the VCP
Open up the 3rd party software you wish to use. Choose the COMport (for instance COM3) you just created in the VCP settings, and choose the correct frequency and Resetpolarity (if available). When the 3rd party software connects to the COMport, the LED will light up bright purple, and the blue icon in the systray will change. During activity (communication between the Infinity USB Unlimited and the 3rd party software, the LED will flash.

[palony]

hi i have followed the instructions about but i get this
Opening of COM2 was successful
Reset failed
Error reseting card, ATR string invalid
Closing of COM2 was successful

im using an original ntl card does this mean its locked as i thought it would give me a revision no

any help thanks

[kid_warrior]

Originally Posted by palony

hi i have followed the instructions about but i get this
Opening of COM2 was successful
Reset failed
Error reseting card, ATR string invalid
Closing of COM2 was successful

im using an original ntl card does this mean its locked as i thought it would give me a revision no

any help thanks

Abit More Info...
What Is It You Are Trying To Do?

[palony]

im trying to unlock the card so i can get the info for the box to rewrite it thanks

[reddiesel]

Originally Posted by palony

hi i have followed the instructions about but i get this
Opening of COM2 was successful
Reset failed
Error reseting card, ATR string invalid
Closing of COM2 was successful

im using an original ntl card does this mean its locked as i thought it would give me a revision no

any help thanks

Have you got programmer in phoenix mode, otherwise card is fried.

[kid_warrior]

Originally Posted by palony

im trying to unlock the card so i can get the info for the box to rewrite it thanks

Has It Been A Working Card....