EPG help!!

[reeves2k2]

im after help regarding the EPG in VMC without the TV pack.
ive read and re-read the threads about it but seems i have a few probs that are not mentioned

here is my setup:

• vista ultimate without the TV pack
• i have floppy dtv installed and scanned with *most* channels and clearing
• i also have a wintv card in there that isn't connected to a feed both are recognised inside vmc

1. when i go to setup the signal it asks if i want to set up 1 or both cards iv tried just setting up 1 and both together

this is where the probs start it says in the epg thread set both cards up, set the un-connected card up for cable to get the epg, and set the floppy up as would to get channels scanned in.
But after i scan for services on the floppy i get most channels but when i go into settings>tv>guide>edit
check all the channels and save it.
Its using the rubbish stream epg and all channels are in a silly order.
I don't have any options in edit or anywhere else to re-map the channels or no auto select unless im missing a trick.

Then if i go to setup guide and set it up for cable to get the good VM epg after that has completed the actual channels are gone but i have the VM epg

any help on this would be greatly appreciated

[Confused Stu]

Most of the current threads about setting up EPG is after installing the TV Pack. Pre-TV pack you could select which EPG to use and if you select the Sky one you get 90% of channels listed. Post-TV pack it chooses for you, which for DVB-C cards using DVB-T drivers means the Freeview EPG which actually only covers about 10% of the channels we get! The tricks with redundant analogue/DVB-C cards are to trick VMC into asking which EPG to use again.

I know using TV Pack and a redundant DVB-C card puts most of your channels in order (I think the analogue card trick does that too - anyone confirm?). Those that aren't in order can be amended and the correct channel number entered.

I only set up VMC once without the TV Pack and ordering the channels was a nightmare. The channels appeared in the order it found the signal, so as I didn't have a registry setup with BBC1 first, then BBC2, etc this meant a pretty much random channel order. I was only able to move the channels up/down by one at a time. This meant to get Sky Movies (say) in the right place, instead of amending the channel and assigning 401 with TV Pack, without it I had to select it and move up, up, up, up, up, up, etc. Then do the same for each channel!!! Nightmare.

I'm sure someone with more experience of non-TV Pack can offer some more constructive advice, but my personal experience of trying to set up without the TV Pack was that choosing the right EPG was easier (no tricks involved) but setting the channels into the right order would've taken me several hours to do.

I'd definitely vote for VMC being easier to set up with the TV Pack installed, provided you have a spare analogue or DVB-C card to use. If you need a copy of it let me know 32 or 64 and I'll wing one over, otherwise I hope someone else can be of more help mate.

[reeves2k2]

thanks mate

i get what your saying and gathered these tricks were for the TV pack

your right about the tv ordering its a pain in the ar*e

iv got to the point where all my channels are scanned in the order they were found
but cant seem to get to the point where i can choose what guide to use

eg when i set up my tv signal you selct antenna then the floppydtv then it says setup guide but the only options for the guides i have are freeview's or unmapped dvb-t

im thinking i may just install the tv pack and see what happens

so i would appreciate it if you could sort the 32bit one out for me it would be great and im gonna give it one last try w/o tv pack and if not just gonna install it

thanks

[TwinTown]

Originally Posted by reeves2k2

thanks mate

i get what your saying and gathered these tricks were for the TV pack

your right about the tv ordering its a pain in the ar*e

iv got to the point where all my channels are scanned in the order they were found
but cant seem to get to the point where i can choose what guide to use

eg when i set up my tv signal you selct antenna then the floppydtv then it says setup guide but the only options for the guides i have are freeview's or unmapped dvb-t

im thinking i may just install the tv pack and see what happens

so i would appreciate it if you could sort the 32bit one out for me it would be great and im gonna give it one last try w/o tv pack and if not just gonna install it

thanks

without the tv pack i used bladerunner and RT xmltv to get the full 2 weeks epg...good film descriptions etc but these descriptions were usually more than 1-page and there was no scrolling pages in vmc...tv pack has this feature although a bit complicated to do but once set up it worked well....after installing the tv pack epg was a prob as no support for bladerunner plugin and tried using a wintv card with the floppydtv but only had a choice to set up terrestrial epg.....think it needs a dvb-c card with bda drivers installed to give u the choice of the v*m cable epg....so i bought a cheap tt1501 and followed stu's method and all ok.....

got a guide for bladerunner if u want to try that first b4 installing the tvpack...

cheers

[Confused Stu]

Originally Posted by reeves2k2

so i would appreciate it if you could sort the 32bit one out for me it would be great and im gonna give it one last try w/o tv pack and if not just gonna install it

No problem - I'm at work til 8 tonight and the files are on my home PC. I'll upload them somewhere and link it whe I can but it might be close to midnight.

Cheers.

[reeves2k2]

Originally Posted by TwinTown

without the tv pack i used bladerunner and RT xmltv to get the full 2 weeks epg...good film descriptions etc but these descriptions were usually more than 1-page and there was no scrolling pages in vmc...tv pack has this feature although a bit complicated to do but once set up it worked well....after installing the tv pack epg was a prob as no support for bladerunner plugin and tried using a wintv card with the floppydtv but only had a choice to set up terrestrial epg.....think it needs a dvb-c card with bda drivers installed to give u the choice of the v*m cable epg....so i bought a cheap tt1501 and followed stu's method and all ok.....

got a guide for bladerunner if u want to try that first b4 installing the tvpack...

cheers

yeah that would be great iv been in the process all day of trying to do this manually and its really begining to p*ss me off now so i think i might just try that

[TwinTown]

Originally Posted by reeves2k2

yeah that would be great iv been in the process all day of trying to do this manually and its really begining to p*ss me off now so i think i might just try that

here you go for satellite but same for cable

change extension back to .doc

Vista MCE bladerunner.txt

edit here's the full guide 'exclusion list' is useful and saves a lot of time

Vista MCE & UK Sky Integration Guide v0.04.txt

cheers

[Confused Stu]

Here's the x86 TV Pack download link (together with the other installs MS stated):
_http://***************/files/186842904/x86.rar.html
Replace the stars with rapid share dot com (without spaces)

x64 pack _http://***************/files/186848890/x64.rar.html
Again replace the stars with rapid share dot com

Edit: Remember MS advise the TV Pack to be installed over a fresh install. Some people have installed it on an already-run VMC and been fine, some have experienced weird problems after doing the same. Your choice!

[reeves2k2]

thanks stu much appreciated not decided which way im going to tackle this yet but it is always nice to have it just in case

you havent managed to find what frequencies could be missing have you

i seem to be missing

sky 2
sky 3
cartoon network
all nickelodeon chnls
men and motors (not sure if it still broadcasts)
discovery realtime extra
a few news chnls
paramount 1+1
and a few +1 chnls

after looking there is quite a few and most are listed above i have used your tw file so something is definately missing somewhere

[Confused Stu]

Originally Posted by reeves2k2

thanks stu much appreciated not decided which way im going to tackle this yet but it is always nice to have it just in case

you havent managed to find what frequencies could be missing have you

i seem to be missing

sky 2
sky 3
cartoon network
all nickelodeon chnls
men and motors (not sure if it still broadcasts)
discovery realtime extra
a few news chnls
paramount 1+1
and a few +1 chnls

after looking there is quite a few and most are listed above i have used your tw file so something is definately missing somewhere

If I'm reading FireDTV Viewer right, here's the transponder frequencies those channels are on in my area (i.e. the one on the right hand side of the equals in the registry file):
Sky 2 & 3 635000
Cartoon Network & Men and Motors 611000
Nickelodeon channels (all I think) 459000
Disc Real Time & Paramount +1 547000

Not sure if that's any help - are they likely to be on the same frequency in another TW area anyone?