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Kalvink · 22-01-09, 09:49 AM

Hi All,

Been lurking these forums for ages, just recently registered.

Is anyone running VMC with both DVB-C and DVB-T / DVB-S or all three at the same time? if so please let me know experiences.

Also, is BBCHD on VM encrypted at all?

TogaForComfort · 22-01-09, 10:37 AM

I don't know about the mixture of cards. but I can tell you BBC HD is encrypted

Confused Stu · 22-01-09, 11:14 AM

If you're using Vista Media Centre without the TV Pack then it only supports DVB-T cards. If you're using the TV Pack then it will allow up to 2 of each type of cards (4 for Vista Ultimate).

The problem we've got is that even the TV Pack doesn't support encrypted DVB-C. This means we still have to use drivers that tell the PC you're using a DVB-T card rather than a DVB-C. You cannot therefore mix a DVB-C card with a DVB-T one because VMC will see them all as DVB-T and won't be able to understand why the channels/frequencies on one of the cards is different to the other.

You should be able to mix DVB-S and DVB-T/C, but I personally haven't got satellite so can't tell you if this is actually practical or not. I've got two DVB-C cards acting as DVB-T and one DVB-C acting as DVB-C, VMC sees them correctly (2xT and 1xC) and it scans and works fine.

Kalvink · 22-01-09, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Confused Stu

....we still have to use drivers that tell the PC you're using a DVB-T card rather than a DVB-C. You cannot therefore mix a DVB-C card with a DVB-T one because VMC will see them all as DVB-T and won't be able to understand why the channels/frequencies on one of the cards is different to the other.

You should be able to mix DVB-S and DVB-T/C, but I personally haven't got satellite so can't tell you if this is actually practical or not. I've got two DVB-C cards acting as DVB-T and one DVB-C acting as DVB-C, VMC sees them correctly (2xT and 1xC) and it scans and works fine.

This is the answer I was looking for. Thank you.

Kalvink · 22-01-09, 02:17 PM

Thanks guys

diegosilang · 12-03-09, 11:01 AM

Hi.

I'm currently using an external dvb-t on my pc and is thinking of adding a dvb-c. Would it be possible for someone to point me in the direction where i can get more info to set up my machine?

i'm using Vista Media Center but i understand that it doesn't support softcam. Do you have a rough figure on a hardcam setup?

Oxyg3n · 13-03-09, 05:29 PM

Based on you already have a PC and your going for premium stuff..

You will need:
FloppyDTV - Roughly £130
Supporting CAM - Roughly £30

And assuming you cant borrow one and you cant get the CAM pre-flashed
you will spend an extra £50 for a programmer

You will also need a Funcard or something along them lines
eBay is a good source for them, or someone on here usually sells them (i forget his name) but you can look at spending £10 for multiple cards

diegosilang · 13-03-09, 11:05 PM

Thanks oxygen.

'Programmer' - is this another gadget or a human programmer?

The question may sound dumb but i really have no idea.

Cafe.Rcaer · 13-03-09, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Confused Stu

If you're using Vista Media Centre without the TV Pack then it only supports DVB-T cards. If you're using the TV Pack then it will allow up to 2 of each type of cards (4 for Vista Ultimate).

The problem we've got is that even the TV Pack doesn't support encrypted DVB-C. This means we still have to use drivers that tell the PC you're using a DVB-T card rather than a DVB-C. You cannot therefore mix a DVB-C card with a DVB-T one because VMC will see them all as DVB-T and won't be able to understand why the channels/frequencies on one of the cards is different to the other.

You should be able to mix DVB-S and DVB-T/C, but I personally haven't got satellite so can't tell you if this is actually practical or not. I've got two DVB-C cards acting as DVB-T and one DVB-C acting as DVB-C, VMC sees them correctly (2xT and 1xC) and it scans and works fine.

I beleive that you could run a DVB-C (pretending to be DVB-T) and a real DVB-T together with the TV Pack - In fact I'm fairly sure I did it when I was playing.

So, you could run 2xDVB-C and 2xDVB-T with Ultimate and the TV Pack. I beleive.

A Programmer is a CAS3+ or similar, for flashing firmware onto CAMs and flashing fun cards.

safe-cracker · 04-04-09, 07:18 PM

cafe

any chance you could give us some points on getting a dvb-t and dvb-c working with vista premium and tv pack?

cheers

22-01-09, 09:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kalvink Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T Hi All, Been lurking these forums for ages, just recently registered. Is anyone running VMC with both DVB-C and DVB-T / DVB-S or all three at the same time? if so please let me know experiences. Also, is BBCHD on VM encrypted at all?

22-01-09, 10:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
TogaForComfort Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 65 Thanks: 12 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T I don't know about the mixture of cards. but I can tell you BBC HD is encrypted

22-01-09, 11:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Confused Stu Confused but learning Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 310 Thanks: 47 Thanked 89 Times in 71 Posts	Re: Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T If you're using Vista Media Centre without the TV Pack then it only supports DVB-T cards. If you're using the TV Pack then it will allow up to 2 of each type of cards (4 for Vista Ultimate). The problem we've got is that even the TV Pack doesn't support encrypted DVB-C. This means we still have to use drivers that tell the PC you're using a DVB-T card rather than a DVB-C. You cannot therefore mix a DVB-C card with a DVB-T one because VMC will see them all as DVB-T and won't be able to understand why the channels/frequencies on one of the cards is different to the other. You should be able to mix DVB-S and DVB-T/C, but I personally haven't got satellite so can't tell you if this is actually practical or not. I've got two DVB-C cards acting as DVB-T and one DVB-C acting as DVB-C, VMC sees them correctly (2xT and 1xC) and it scans and works fine. __________________ Why can't we use paid subscription cards in our DVB-C PCs?

22-01-09, 02:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kalvink Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T Thanks guys Last edited by Kalvink; 22-01-09 at 07:00 PM.

12-03-09, 11:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
diegosilang Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T Hi. I'm currently using an external dvb-t on my pc and is thinking of adding a dvb-c. Would it be possible for someone to point me in the direction where i can get more info to set up my machine? i'm using Vista Media Center but i understand that it doesn't support softcam. Do you have a rough figure on a hardcam setup?

13-03-09, 05:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
Oxyg3n Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 47 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T Based on you already have a PC and your going for premium stuff.. You will need: FloppyDTV - Roughly £130 Supporting CAM - Roughly £30 And assuming you cant borrow one and you cant get the CAM pre-flashed you will spend an extra £50 for a programmer You will also need a Funcard or something along them lines eBay is a good source for them, or someone on here usually sells them (i forget his name) but you can look at spending £10 for multiple cards

13-03-09, 11:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
diegosilang Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T Thanks oxygen. 'Programmer' - is this another gadget or a human programmer? The question may sound dumb but i really have no idea.

04-04-09, 07:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
safe-cracker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 368 Thanks: 24 Thanked 42 Times in 36 Posts	Re: Concurrent DVB-C and DVB-S and DVB-T cafe any chance you could give us some points on getting a dvb-t and dvb-c working with vista premium and tv pack? cheers

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