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slufc · 08-02-09, 03:07 PM

hi all,im trying to get a samsung 2110c going,the trouble is Im f***ing baffled.the box belongs to a 3rd party and he says the card has been activated as its a new box.Its a month or so old.I glitched the card and got a boxkey starting with 80 B1.The ird was 00000000.I converted the ird code from the em and also the same number from the scart connection and got the proper ird beginning with 3E.I have written a funcard and a mosc with the proper images for my area(Pure).Its the usual story,cant get the premium channels.When I put on the sports theres no messages or Not subscribed messages,just a black screen with the channel info.I ve tried putting the ird in backwards the bk in backwards.everything.Still nothing.In the em the card reads as ok and gives the revision of the card and everything is ok.When I put the origonal card in it reads Never paired.Could someone tell me if i were to jtag the box and got the proper bk would it work ok or is it knackered as it might not be activated.Sorry for the lond drawn out post yawwwwn.thanks in advance

bramleyandy · 08-02-09, 03:18 PM

sammy 2110 cant be jtagged m8 paired card only the bk you have seems to look ok to me have you checked the rights date on your image if expired then it will be a blank screen allso try entering the latest keys if it works you no its the dates have a go see how ya get on and let us no the outcome hope this helps m8

slufc · 08-02-09, 03:32 PM

cheers andy but i have checked the dates and they are ok.Ive also tried it with a funcard and still the same.Ive checked the cam id as well.I thought you could jtag a 2110c and it was a 2100 you couldnt jtag but Im new to all this and thick as s**t,but Ill keep trying.If u think of anything else i could try givus a shout .Thanks for ur help

adjbeatbox · 08-02-09, 04:33 PM

It might be just as simple as your not leaving the card on a fta channel for long enough, for the keys to update....
MAKE sure you have the correct IRD from the EM, and have put it in the correct way (Bkwards if mosc card, reverse if fun i.e 3E is 1st in fun card, 3e last in mosc image).ASLO the image,from ur area, dates, cam id etc all ok then put new expiry dates..

Blank ch's either could be... not correct bk.. or not updated public keys..
Switch box off whilst on BBc1, take card out.. plug back in, should goto bbc1 straight away, w8 for put card in box, insert prog. card..THEN LEAVE IT 4 ABOUT 1 HR....

Good luck,
Beatbox

slufc · 08-02-09, 05:19 PM

cheers beatbox ,gonna have a crack at all your suggestions and let u know l8r m8,,,,cheers

jayjay121 · 08-02-09, 09:17 PM

If card says never paired then its not the car that came with the box.

slufc · 08-02-09, 09:38 PM

Itried what u said beatbox and left it on bbc for a couple hours but still no luck.I m only after doing a funcard and changed a couple of the numbers around in the bk just to see what it says in the em.It is still saying that the card is OK.Any thoughts anybody?....cheers
thanks jayjay but it definately is the origonal card as he only has the box a couple months,He said they gave him it after taking out a fone package,but it says never paired after it was glitched and the ird was all zeros

rizzla664 · 08-02-09, 09:46 PM

read the original card again in nagra check the bk again i think you might have got or read it wrong. i glitched a 2110 the other night for the first time and it worked for me was well chuffed.

reddiesel · 09-02-09, 01:04 AM

The original card you glitched would say never paired with all zeros on ird, if that is card that came from box you must have a digit wrong or something on bk, if the ird is right it will say ok.

slufc · 09-02-09, 11:14 AM

thanks reddiesel I was thinking that was the case.Would that mean that the cc have sent a false digit or two to the bk making it useless?.....cheers

08-02-09, 03:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
slufc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 183 Thanks: 59 Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts	ird and boxkey hi all,im trying to get a samsung 2110c going,the trouble is Im f***ing baffled.the box belongs to a 3rd party and he says the card has been activated as its a new box.Its a month or so old.I glitched the card and got a boxkey starting with 80 B1.The ird was 00000000.I converted the ird code from the em and also the same number from the scart connection and got the proper ird beginning with 3E.I have written a funcard and a mosc with the proper images for my area(Pure).Its the usual story,cant get the premium channels.When I put on the sports theres no messages or Not subscribed messages,just a black screen with the channel info.I ve tried putting the ird in backwards the bk in backwards.everything.Still nothing.In the em the card reads as ok and gives the revision of the card and everything is ok.When I put the origonal card in it reads Never paired.Could someone tell me if i were to jtag the box and got the proper bk would it work ok or is it knackered as it might not be activated.Sorry for the lond drawn out post yawwwwn.thanks in advance

08-02-09, 03:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
bramleyandy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: leeds Posts: 392 Thanks: 43 Thanked 64 Times in 62 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey sammy 2110 cant be jtagged m8 paired card only the bk you have seems to look ok to me have you checked the rights date on your image if expired then it will be a blank screen allso try entering the latest keys if it works you no its the dates have a go see how ya get on and let us no the outcome hope this helps m8

08-02-09, 03:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
slufc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 183 Thanks: 59 Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey cheers andy but i have checked the dates and they are ok.Ive also tried it with a funcard and still the same.Ive checked the cam id as well.I thought you could jtag a 2110c and it was a 2100 you couldnt jtag but Im new to all this and thick as s**t,but Ill keep trying.If u think of anything else i could try givus a shout .Thanks for ur help

08-02-09, 04:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
adjbeatbox Multimedia Menace Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 403 Thanks: 46 Thanked 74 Times in 62 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey It might be just as simple as your not leaving the card on a fta channel for long enough, for the keys to update.... MAKE sure you have the correct IRD from the EM, and have put it in the correct way (Bkwards if mosc card, reverse if fun i.e 3E is 1st in fun card, 3e last in mosc image).ASLO the image,from ur area, dates, cam id etc all ok then put new expiry dates.. Blank ch's either could be... not correct bk.. or not updated public keys.. Switch box off whilst on BBc1, take card out.. plug back in, should goto bbc1 straight away, w8 for put card in box, insert prog. card..THEN LEAVE IT 4 ABOUT 1 HR.... Good luck, Beatbox __________________ All information given is Hypothetical & for Educational purposes ONLY, Have A Nice Day...

08-02-09, 05:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
slufc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 183 Thanks: 59 Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey cheers beatbox ,gonna have a crack at all your suggestions and let u know l8r m8,,,,cheers

08-02-09, 09:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
jayjay121 Technology Forums Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 22 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey If card says never paired then its not the car that came with the box.

08-02-09, 09:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
slufc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 183 Thanks: 59 Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey Itried what u said beatbox and left it on bbc for a couple hours but still no luck.I m only after doing a funcard and changed a couple of the numbers around in the bk just to see what it says in the em.It is still saying that the card is OK.Any thoughts anybody?....cheers thanks jayjay but it definately is the origonal card as he only has the box a couple months,He said they gave him it after taking out a fone package,but it says never paired after it was glitched and the ird was all zeros

08-02-09, 09:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
rizzla664 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 193 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey read the original card again in nagra check the bk again i think you might have got or read it wrong. i glitched a 2110 the other night for the first time and it worked for me was well chuffed.

09-02-09, 01:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
reddiesel Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Beds Posts: 5,708 Thanks: 176 Thanked 957 Times in 839 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey The original card you glitched would say never paired with all zeros on ird, if that is card that came from box you must have a digit wrong or something on bk, if the ird is right it will say ok. __________________

09-02-09, 11:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
slufc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 183 Thanks: 59 Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts	Re: ird and boxkey thanks reddiesel I was thinking that was the case.Would that mean that the cc have sent a false digit or two to the bk making it useless?.....cheers

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