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waqasahmed · 28-04-09, 09:13 PM

Hi, just wondering(as I have an old non subscribed Pace box here)-back in the days when I knew nothing about Eurovox's and thought Knock off Nigel actually chipped the boxes, and not flashed them

) what would be the initial cost of getting all the equipment so I could reprogram the funcard?

If its cheap(£20-£40 for all the equipment) I wouldn't mind buying a kit, but if its not cheap(£50+) then I dont think I'll bother until Im a little richer

BL4K3Y · 28-04-09, 09:54 PM

A basic Funcard Programmer will set you back about a tenner. All the software you need is available from this site so just get yourself a Funcard Programmer and you are away

.

waqasahmed · 28-04-09, 09:57 PM

Thats all I need? No unlooper, powersync etc..?

and as for the basic fun card programmer, have people had any success with them compared to the Infinity USB phoenix/unlimited ones?

Also whats the difference between the basic/phoenix programmers?

BL4K3Y · 28-04-09, 10:07 PM

You only need the unlooper to unlock original cards, a Funcard Programmer does exactly what it says - it programs Funcards

. the Infinity USB Unlimited does most cards including MOSCs and Funcards, I use this one but it costs around £40. TMC sells a Funcard Programmer which will do the job, it's £7 I think. It uses an LPT interface so you will need a parallel port available on your PC.

waqasahmed · 28-04-09, 10:10 PM

aah, I think I will need to get an Infinity USb then as someone else( a friend) has the same box but the smart card says NTL on it, so Im assuming its MOSC?-I wouldn't have to unlock it would I, but just reprogram it?

BL4K3Y · 28-04-09, 10:15 PM

It's an OSC to start with (Original Smart Card). It will definateley need unlooping unless it's a ROM11 B09. It becomes a MOSC (Modified Original Smart Card) once it has been programmed.

waqasahmed · 28-04-09, 10:20 PM

Sorry, but how would I know that it is ROM 11 B09?

BL4K3Y · 28-04-09, 10:23 PM

You can detect the card in Nagra Edit and it will tell you the ROM and Revision, It's unlikely that you will have a ROM11 B09. You will most likely have a ROM10 A86 or a ROM11 B0D. The B09 can be unlocked by sending a simple d2c script to it in Nagra Edit. You can use BoxGetPC2 to get the BK before you use the script as it will totally wipe the card.

Smurf · 28-04-09, 10:32 PM

Do u have the Bk and Ird waqasahmed?

waqasahmed · 28-04-09, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smurf

Do u have the Bk and Ird waqasahmed?

Sorry, the what?

28-04-09, 09:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Equipment and set up cost? Hi, just wondering(as I have an old non subscribed Pace box here)-back in the days when I knew nothing about Eurovox's and thought Knock off Nigel actually chipped the boxes, and not flashed them ) what would be the initial cost of getting all the equipment so I could reprogram the funcard? If its cheap(£20-£40 for all the equipment) I wouldn't mind buying a kit, but if its not cheap(£50+) then I dont think I'll bother until Im a little richer

28-04-09, 09:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
BL4K3Y Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 7,004 Thanks: 247 Thanked 1,319 Times in 1,211 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? A basic Funcard Programmer will set you back about a tenner. All the software you need is available from this site so just get yourself a Funcard Programmer and you are away .

28-04-09, 09:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? Thats all I need? No unlooper, powersync etc..? and as for the basic fun card programmer, have people had any success with them compared to the Infinity USB phoenix/unlimited ones? Also whats the difference between the basic/phoenix programmers? Last edited by waqasahmed; 28-04-09 at 10:05 PM.

28-04-09, 10:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
BL4K3Y Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 7,004 Thanks: 247 Thanked 1,319 Times in 1,211 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? You only need the unlooper to unlock original cards, a Funcard Programmer does exactly what it says - it programs Funcards . the Infinity USB Unlimited does most cards including MOSCs and Funcards, I use this one but it costs around £40. TMC sells a Funcard Programmer which will do the job, it's £7 I think. It uses an LPT interface so you will need a parallel port available on your PC.

28-04-09, 10:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? aah, I think I will need to get an Infinity USb then as someone else( a friend) has the same box but the smart card says NTL on it, so Im assuming its MOSC?-I wouldn't have to unlock it would I, but just reprogram it?

28-04-09, 10:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
BL4K3Y Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 7,004 Thanks: 247 Thanked 1,319 Times in 1,211 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? It's an OSC to start with (Original Smart Card). It will definateley need unlooping unless it's a ROM11 B09. It becomes a MOSC (Modified Original Smart Card) once it has been programmed.

28-04-09, 10:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? Sorry, but how would I know that it is ROM 11 B09?

28-04-09, 10:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
BL4K3Y Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 7,004 Thanks: 247 Thanked 1,319 Times in 1,211 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? You can detect the card in Nagra Edit and it will tell you the ROM and Revision, It's unlikely that you will have a ROM11 B09. You will most likely have a ROM10 A86 or a ROM11 B0D. The B09 can be unlocked by sending a simple d2c script to it in Nagra Edit. You can use BoxGetPC2 to get the BK before you use the script as it will totally wipe the card.

28-04-09, 10:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Smurf Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,220 Thanks: 131 Thanked 179 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Equipment and set up cost? Do u have the Bk and Ird waqasahmed?

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