same ird when unlopping to cards

[RR-TV]

sidewinder has given me the same ird on 2 cards, from 2 diff boxes

on my v plus i got the bk ok but the ird was like f9f9f9f9

unlooped a pace 4000, got bk and again the ird was f9f9f9f9 ?????????

the pace card is working all ok apart from the pin ( see other post )
i cant remember how to work out the v plus ird from nirga serial? as i cant get ird in the EM like a pace?>

[abaaba]

open calculator> click view scientific mode> put the first 10 digit from the negra serial number > then click HEX

[BL4K3Y]

To get in the EM on the V+, you hold up and down the same as any other box but you have to wait until you see "boot" on the front LED then let go and it should let you in.

[Smurf]

Its always the same for me aswell with sidewinder but i get 45 cd 9d 9d or something like that. I just get it from the nagra serial or if its a pace from the silver scart block its normally written there.

[BL4K3Y]

You get that because you try unlooping the card more than once, I get the same sometimes.

[G77]

of if you've used sidewinder and not waited for the ird writeback packet to have completed