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DAVEYEFF · 22-06-09, 08:52 PM

im assuming you,s lads either work for vm or are really clued up on your tech knowledge, if its the former, do you know if theres about to be something major in the pipeline as regards to eurovox, starview etc. ive been advised off a friend of a friend, who told me or anyone i know not to buy any more dodgey stb,s as the plug is about to be pulled so to speak. ive heard loads of rumours, they,re changing encryption, and it,ll be as foolproof as sky,s nds system, and it will not be hacked. and if this IS the case, then who better to ask than you lads. any info, much appreciated.

tdubman · 23-06-09, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVEYEFF

im assuming you,s lads either work for vm or are really clued up on your tech knowledge, if its the former, do you know if theres about to be something major in the pipeline as regards to eurovox, starview etc. ive been advised off a friend of a friend, who told me or anyone i know not to buy any more dodgey stb,s as the plug is about to be pulled so to speak. ive heard loads of rumours, they,re changing encryption, and it,ll be as foolproof as sky,s nds system, and it will not be hacked. and if this IS the case, then who better to ask than you lads. any info, much appreciated.

in that case ive got two labtools proggers and one L/neck if any one interested // last person out can you please turn the light off

50pounds · 23-06-09, 12:25 AM

Its happend in Northern Irland all the channels going off so i guess its a matter of time but it will cost alot of coin to move the channels to narg 3

lee-ds · 23-06-09, 01:04 AM

Could you let the friend of your friend know that I have a friend who has a friend who's friends with a friend of his who...........f00k it....

Why did the Chicken cross the road????............

Because the tunnel wasn't finished...............

gji25 · 23-06-09, 07:40 AM

agreed... you can tell your friend of a friend that he can forget about nagra3.... tell him to concintrate on nagr4

TheCoder · 23-06-09, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVEYEFF

im assuming you,s lads either work for vm

Definately not - they dont pay enough !!!

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or are really clued up on your tech knowledge,

We read a lot of tech stuff

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if its the former, do you know if theres about to be something major in the pipeline as regards to eurovox, starview etc. ive been advised off a friend of a friend, who told me or anyone i know not to buy any more dodgey stb,s as the plug is about to be pulled so to speak. ive heard loads of rumours, they,re changing encryption, and it,ll be as foolproof as sky,s nds system, and it will not be hacked. and if this IS the case, then who better to ask than you lads. any info, much appreciated.

Nobody knows for certain but some work has already been done by VM on their latest box (the 3110) with the inclusion of their NGCAM system.

This looks to be a cardless system which works solely via a talkback and session access system. Boxes are verified/validated before they are allowed access to a session key which is then manipulated inside the box to produce the stream operational keys.

The benefits of a cardless system are, of course, that VM can effectively change things whenever they want without having to issue several Million new cards......

The downside, is that this system appears to only run on the latest boxes. That could possibly mean a very expensive box swap which I personally dont see occuring any time soon.

lincsat · 23-06-09, 02:49 PM

I would suspect that is related to the IPTV system that has already been announced. The big advantage of IPTV is that you would not need a VM connection to subscribe - any Broadband Internet connection would do it.

waqasahmed · 23-06-09, 03:11 PM

If we get free TV for one more year, whos complaining? Also, if the coders have indeed made patches for linux receivers then, whos complaining then?-Like someone said, they will probably at least go to nag2 before they do anything else

Smurf · 23-06-09, 03:17 PM

But the question is do they really want to lose there customers that are paying basic subs because if they do they will lose them customers aswell.

G77 · 23-06-09, 03:56 PM

they cant afford to send everyone a new card let alone a new box.

were also overdue a keyroll method change, cant they afford to do these anymore?

22-06-09, 08:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
DAVEYEFF Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 475 Thanks: 53 Thanked 108 Times in 74 Posts	underground crew members im assuming you,s lads either work for vm or are really clued up on your tech knowledge, if its the former, do you know if theres about to be something major in the pipeline as regards to eurovox, starview etc. ive been advised off a friend of a friend, who told me or anyone i know not to buy any more dodgey stb,s as the plug is about to be pulled so to speak. ive heard loads of rumours, they,re changing encryption, and it,ll be as foolproof as sky,s nds system, and it will not be hacked. and if this IS the case, then who better to ask than you lads. any info, much appreciated. __________________ daveyeff

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50pounds Stella Artois Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Teesside Posts: 960 Thanks: 106 Thanked 151 Times in 116 Posts	Re: underground crew members Its happend in Northern Irland all the channels going off so i guess its a matter of time but it will cost alot of coin to move the channels to narg 3

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lee-ds Cable Animal Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Capital Of Yorkshire Posts: 1,673 Thanks: 163 Thanked 451 Times in 350 Posts	Re: underground crew members Could you let the friend of your friend know that I have a friend who has a friend who's friends with a friend of his who...........f00k it.... Why did the Chicken cross the road????............ Because the tunnel wasn't finished............... __________________ If at first you don't succeed.......flash and flash again!

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gji25 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: hampshire Posts: 766 Thanks: 9 Thanked 114 Times in 95 Posts	Re: underground crew members agreed... you can tell your friend of a friend that he can forget about nagra3.... tell him to concintrate on nagr4

23-06-09, 02:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
lincsat Super-Dooper Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In front of the PC Posts: 6,003 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2,580 Times in 667 Posts	Re: underground crew members I would suspect that is related to the IPTV system that has already been announced. The big advantage of IPTV is that you would not need a VM connection to subscribe - any Broadband Internet connection would do it. __________________ Blade7000 & DM800Pro/SE in Stock, Linux Sat boxes from £52.25, SkyboxF3 under £60. Kryptview £123.50 & SV6 under £72 with Members Discount - Lincsat's Nick-Nacks (Shop) Drivers Protest Union

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waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: underground crew members If we get free TV for one more year, whos complaining? Also, if the coders have indeed made patches for linux receivers then, whos complaining then?-Like someone said, they will probably at least go to nag2 before they do anything else

23-06-09, 03:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Smurf Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,220 Thanks: 131 Thanked 179 Times in 164 Posts	Re: underground crew members But the question is do they really want to lose there customers that are paying basic subs because if they do they will lose them customers aswell.

23-06-09, 03:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
G77 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 6,118 Thanks: 695 Thanked 1,250 Times in 1,044 Posts	Re: underground crew members they cant afford to send everyone a new card let alone a new box. were also overdue a keyroll method change, cant they afford to do these anymore? __________________ 1M Motorised Dish, 45W-36E, DM800HD. Quad LNB Mesh Mini Dish, 28.2E, DM500, TM500. Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000 XXJVU & CF-Root.

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