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Jim_Bax · 19-09-09, 05:50 PM

Hi Everyone, just purchased a Phoenix Programmer from TMC. I have a Laptop and a desktop. I thought the desktop had a serial port, but apparently not. I now have the problem of deciding what my next step should be. I have read that some people have had problems with USB to RS232 converters.

I need to update my MOSC card in Nagra Edit 4.1. I guess as I prefer to use the laptop, will the above converter work or am I better of buying a PCMIA to RS232 card (how will this work for updating my card, flashing if ever needed etc). Your thoughts are greatly appreciated. I cant believe it, I was almost certain the PC had a serial port

. I have spent so much time reading and came to the conclusion that the TMC phoenix card came highly recommended for MOSC programming.

The other thing I would like to confirm is the PSU for the programmer. Some people have mentioned that you can use a 12v PSU (I have a 12V, 1.2A supply), others recommend the AMBIT modem supply which I would have to buy.

would my 1.25A 12V supply suffice or will it damage my programmer or shall I buy a 10V ambit modem supply

JIM

yusuf_gaz · 19-09-09, 06:06 PM

Hi

Some people can get it to work some struggle. The 1st one I bought wouldnt have it at all, the 2nd I bought (a cheapo one) works fine for programming and unlooping although maybe a little slow.

The programmer wont need a psu as it will have a usb connection but the unlooper would if you are talking about an unlooper if you need to unloop card to get in for which I use the modem psu. I have used a 12v suply for this as well and its been fine but up to you.

Regards.

abu baniaz · 19-09-09, 08:48 PM

Hi, double check you PC. Some motherboards have the serial ports, you just need to connect the port that sits on a separate plate/header.

You can check the mobo details online or check in bios if there is an option for comm ports.

blue nose · 19-09-09, 09:14 PM

I just bought an older Dell Latitude laptop of e-bay now every thing works great as my new laptop with vista was a pig.

But its just more expense when you are starting out.

Jim_Bax · 19-09-09, 09:42 PM

Thanky Yusuf, the phoenix programmer is from TMC, it has no usb please see attachment, hence why I was asking about the psu.

I guess the 12 volt one may work then.

With regards to the PCMIA to Rs232 card for the laptop do you think it would be more reliable than a cheap USB to RS232 converter. the PCMIA cards are quite cheap on ebay.

yusuf_gaz · 19-09-09, 10:34 PM

Hi

I see what you mean, you would need a psu, as far as the pcmia is concerned I belieive its much better than a usb convertor although I have never used one.

Regards

timetrex · 21-09-09, 11:40 AM

The usb2serial works fine for the tiny unlooper with vista. No issues at all.

19-09-09, 05:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jim_Bax Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	RE:Help MOSC programmer help Hi Everyone, just purchased a Phoenix Programmer from TMC. I have a Laptop and a desktop. I thought the desktop had a serial port, but apparently not. I now have the problem of deciding what my next step should be. I have read that some people have had problems with USB to RS232 converters. I need to update my MOSC card in Nagra Edit 4.1. I guess as I prefer to use the laptop, will the above converter work or am I better of buying a PCMIA to RS232 card (how will this work for updating my card, flashing if ever needed etc). Your thoughts are greatly appreciated. I cant believe it, I was almost certain the PC had a serial port. I have spent so much time reading and came to the conclusion that the TMC phoenix card came highly recommended for MOSC programming. The other thing I would like to confirm is the PSU for the programmer. Some people have mentioned that you can use a 12v PSU (I have a 12V, 1.2A supply), others recommend the AMBIT modem supply which I would have to buy. would my 1.25A 12V supply suffice or will it damage my programmer or shall I buy a 10V ambit modem supply JIM

19-09-09, 06:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
yusuf_gaz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,964 Thanks: 116 Thanked 623 Times in 525 Posts	Re: Help MOSC programmer help Hi Some people can get it to work some struggle. The 1st one I bought wouldnt have it at all, the 2nd I bought (a cheapo one) works fine for programming and unlooping although maybe a little slow. The programmer wont need a psu as it will have a usb connection but the unlooper would if you are talking about an unlooper if you need to unloop card to get in for which I use the modem psu. I have used a 12v suply for this as well and its been fine but up to you. Regards.

19-09-09, 08:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
abu baniaz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 186 Thanks: 73 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Help MOSC programmer help Hi, double check you PC. Some motherboards have the serial ports, you just need to connect the port that sits on a separate plate/header. You can check the mobo details online or check in bios if there is an option for comm ports.

19-09-09, 09:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
blue nose Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 615 Thanks: 133 Thanked 72 Times in 69 Posts	Re: Help MOSC programmer help I just bought an older Dell Latitude laptop of e-bay now every thing works great as my new laptop with vista was a pig. But its just more expense when you are starting out. __________________ Dont you just love clowns

19-09-09, 10:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
yusuf_gaz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,964 Thanks: 116 Thanked 623 Times in 525 Posts	Re: Help MOSC programmer help Hi I see what you mean, you would need a psu, as far as the pcmia is concerned I belieive its much better than a usb convertor although I have never used one. Regards

21-09-09, 11:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
timetrex Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belfast Posts: 347 Thanks: 23 Thanked 56 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Help MOSC programmer help The usb2serial works fine for the tiny unlooper with vista. No issues at all.

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