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Old 08-10-09, 01:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How : Satellite Feed and Cable Feed to one receiver?

Can anyone advise me please?

I have a satellite receiver (Vantage X200TS) which I have previously used to receive satellite TV from four LNBs via two DiSEqC switches.

Recently I moved to a new property, which is fitted with cable TV (the signal comes from Astra 2D at, I think, 28.2 so I can get all the UK FTA channels). I have connected the cable wall socket to the Dish Input socket on my Vantage receiver. So at present I'm getting all the usual UK stuff.

What I would like to do is add a satellite dish pointing at 19.2E, 9.0E and 1.0W for European language channels (German, Swedish, Danish) and bring the signal in from the three LNBs via DiSEqC switch to my Vantage receiver.

So here's the question: how do I get the satellite cable into the receiver when the Dish Input socket is already occupied by the Cable TV feed?
Can I put the Cable TV into another socket and the satellite feed into Dish Input?
Or do I put both into a DiSEqC switch and the output from this into the Dish Input?

Any advice/comment would be welcome. Thank you.
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Are you sure it is a cable feed, and not a feed from a communal dish ? As a satellite tuner won't recieve anything from a cable feed because they work on differant frequencies.
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Default Re: How : Satellite Feed and Cable Feed to one receiver?

It can't be a cable feed coming in if it works OK in a sat receiver. It must be a satellite feed.

For a sat feed, you can't normally cascade diseqc 1.0 switches. So you need to run up to 4 individual feeds into a 4-way diseqc 1.0 switch.

Or use a diseqc 1.1 switch, that can be cascaded with a diseqc 1.0 switch.

EDIT,

Just noticed your receiver is a combo unit. Your 'cable' feed could be a terrestrial feed or a cable feed with terrestrial analogue signals added. Which connector are you plugging it into on the receiver?
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Default Re: How : Satellite Feed and Cable Feed to one receiver?

Thanks Rick, thanks Robbo

Maybe I'm using the wrong terminology.
I'm living in an estate with several blocks of flats, and I'm pretty certain the existing signal is coming from a communal satellite dish (which I can see) on top of one of the blocks. It is pointing towards 28.2E (Astra 2D).

In my living room there is an FM+Sat plate in the wall. The Sat socket (which is what I, maybe wrongly, have called Cable TV or Cable feed) on the wall is for a threaded F-connector. For the past couple of months I have had this socket connected to the Dish Input socket on the back of my Vantage receiver via a coax cable with threaded F-connector at each end and have been watching all Astra 2D channels.

Question is where do I put my forthcoming coax cable from my planned dish on the patio when it arrives at the Vantage receiver? This is the cable I have called, again maybe wrongly, the satellite feed. The patio dish, you'll remember, will have three LNBs, uniting in a diseqc switch and providing a single coax cable to the receiver.

Last point (referring to your "4 individual feeds" suggestion, Robbo): the dish will be on the patio about 20 feet from receiver/TV; the present Sat socket is immediately behind the receiver/TV.

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OK, that is the cable feed confusion sorted.

So it is a sat connection.


Ok, as before though, if you put a 4 way diseqc1.0 on the balcony, and then a two way one behind the tv, and then fed the 2-way from the 4 way and the wall socket, it probably wouldn't work., as this is cacading diseqc 1.0 switches.




Imagine:-

You select diseqc position 1 , fair enough, you get the 28E

Now select diseqc pos 2, you get a sig from the balcony, from whatever is on position2 of the other disec switch.

But what the heck will happen if you select diseqc 3 or 4.?

A cheap good solution that would work, would be to use the very thin shotgun wf65 cable. You could then run 3 cables directly from outside, straight into a 4 way switch.

http://www.aerialshack.com/cables-cl...FYIA4wodlnSohQ
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Hi again, Robbo

It sounds as if two lengths of WF65 shotgun cable might be the best answer (simply locating the DiSEqC in the living room instead of at the dish, and putting the existing satellite signal into the fourth DiSEqC input ... then connect DiSEqC's single output to receiver). That actually sounds quite a neat solution.
I see that the thin cable needs special, mini F-plug connectors.

I'll try and remember to report back when the job is done. But I am pretty confident your suggested solution will work :-).

Regards and thanks again - Charles
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Well signal strength wise it will work anyway

I have seen the wf65 being used on very long runs (40m) and still work, not recommened though, up to 25m is OK.
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I reckon we'll be using two pieces each approx. 6-7 metres.

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So just £6.30 each length of WF65 shotgun cable
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FEEDBACK on above question:

We did as you suggested, Robbo ... thin shotgun cable from three twin LNBs on the dish to living room and kitchen respectively, where (both places) they were fed into a four-way DiSEqC together with the communal dish system as the fourth feed. Then single output from the DiSEqC into a Vantage receiver.

Works perfectly ... thanks to everybody for advice.
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