Why are Virgin Still using Rom 11s in New Installs?

[leachy070667]

There’s only 1 solitary Rom 180 card made its appearance on the forums, with a poster posting the script supposedly extracted from the said card.

Yet considering Nagra 3 is supposedly here, I know off 3 Virgin installs over the last few days alone where subscribers have been provided with a box and Rom 11 card.

Something just doesn’t seem right.

I might be out of my league here so correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn’t we be seeing new installs with Rom 180s to run along side the soon to be extinct Rom 11s ?

It just doesn’t make any sense if this big encryption change is supposedly imminent

Do you think this media campaign is nothing more than a simple card change to change all cards to Rom 11s with IPTV around the corner ?

Lets face it you know it would make sense to do it on the cheap.

[bumble]

hi,,
theres an awfull lot of bent vermin engineers,, and they know it.

they are probably gonna put the trust element into the viewers themselves to install an updated card via the post,,

and thats what i would do if i were vermin anyway,,,,

bumble

[edcase]

How on earth could they be installing N3 cards when the streams arent there yet. N3 cards wont work on an N1 stream. Once the streams are on the card swap will begin, during this period they will simulcrypt N1 and N3. Once everyone has the new card the N1 stream will be terminated.

[leachy070667]

Originally Posted by edcase

How on earth could they be installing N3 cards when the streams arent there yet. N3 cards wont work on an N1 stream. Once the streams are on the card swap will begin, during this period they will simulcrypt N1 and N3. Once everyone has the new card the N1 stream will be terminated.

So what are you saying mate? ,are you saying they will simply fill a warehouse with a couple of million cards and then post them all to subscribers at the same time and that’s it switch over completed ?


I am not going to start professing that I know how it works because I don’t mate.

but if your saying the streams are not there yet does that mean that Rom 180 that made an appearance on another thread was not a genuine viewing card because basically it cant do any viewing as off yet?

[edcase]

I believe VM will have taken delivery of at least some of the cards, so they must be somewhere. I guess it is from the "somewhere" that this 180 made an appearance.

[lincsat]

Unless it was a hoax, there was a picture of a "New" card with a serial beginning 011 suggesting it was a ROM11

[edcase]

Originally Posted by lincsat

Unless it was a hoax, there was a picture of a "New" card with a serial beginning 011 suggesting it was a ROM11

Look at the shape of the chip in the picture and compare to a rom11. Case closed.

[adjbeatbox]

Originally Posted by lincsat

Unless it was a hoax, there was a picture of a "New" card with a serial beginning 011 suggesting it was a ROM11

Yeh there has never been a hoax put on the forums B4.... yeh I 4got about that SA-Sect thing not too long ago...
Hoax, on a forum?
Never...
CASE CLOSED!
Beatbox

[bozobro0]

I believe that N3 is on its way but it will take months and months for it to take effect.So until then i will sit here and enjoy what channels i have got.
The problem they have got now is that N3 will not be a permenant fix and it will be hacked,it may take a month,a year,but it will be done.Until then enjoy what you have got,and remember after N3 maybe will come N4,and the game of cat and mouse will continue.

[edcase]

Originally Posted by adjbeatbox

Yeh there has never been a hoax put on the forums B4.... yeh I 4got about that SA-Sect thing not too long ago...
Hoax, on a forum?
Never...
CASE CLOSED!
Beatbox

Why would VM suggest a card swap? Why would they be testing CAID 1841 where 18xx is kudelski - and everything above 1801 worldwide has been N3 based?
It has been suggested from the ATR that the new card in the pics is rom180. If you do a little research you wll realise that rom180 contains an atmel core and not one from st micro (as is used in all other nagra cards). Then take a look at the shape of the chip in the pictured new VM card and compare it to any previous nagra card .. notice anything different?