What are your plans going forward?

[Oxyg3n]

Originally Posted by Confused Stu

Of course, ideal solution would be for VM to release their own CAM and card combo as one of their packages. Anyone see that happening? Unfortunately me pulling Lisa Snowdon is more likely!

Ironically, we didnt see the US of A doing the same, the second ATI said we are bringing out the CableCARD system.

Now that its not restricted to OEM machines, perhaps we shall see how it fairs over in the UK market, maybe its only a matter of time and a few emails before we see it happen

[TwinTown]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

Yes, but how do you find the correct location in the stb without having a box with known details to start with ?

The stb will have probably 4Mbyte of flash and 32Mbyte of RAM. Which 64 bytes in that lot is the number your looking for ?

In other parts of Europe, they had N2 cards which could be opened and the details read. They could then look for the matching numbers in the stb and thus had the location where the info lives in that particular model of stb. We dont have that luxury so were starting blind !

It will be solved but its a bit more difficult.

the roll-out in eire (upc) went to an interim N2 first maybe cards for the stbs have been read, identifying where the 64b resides or is it likely to be totally diff encryption?

guess a slingbox for the htpc may be an option

thanks

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by TwinTown

the roll-out in eire (upc) went to an interim N2 first maybe cards for the stbs have been read, identifying where the 64b resides or is it likely to be totally diff encryption?

The N2 cards make it a lot more do-able !

If the N2 card was opened for a box, then you already have the pairing info for that box (N2 & N3 pairing info is identical for individual boxes) so could actually run the N3 card on a dreambox right now if you wanted (you'd only get the channels your subbed to though).

If you then jtag the box, you should be able to find the location where that known data is stored and, thus, find the same information in other boxes of the same type.........

The location for different box models will undoubtably be very different. I doubt the locations for UPC boxes will have any bearing on VM boxes. Different box models but also totally different firmware type.

[TogaForComfort]

Well, Looks like we might get an answer to this soon. They are sending new cards to Customers in Yorkshire.
Digital TV - News - Virgin plans Yorkshire smart card swap - Digital Spy

[safe-cracker]

doesnt mention new encryption just more benefits for customers.

wonder what that will be?

[G77]

"the exchange is purely localised to parts of Yorkshire." w00t

[timetrex]

I wonder if flaws are found on nagra 3 and the move to boxes with these hybrid qam ip modems what the possibility would be to clone the macs in another box to obtain the channels much like what is done with the current modems..

[safe-cracker]

Originally Posted by G77

"the exchange is purely localised to parts of Yorkshire." w00t

but for how long?

[ppenno192]

Im I right in assuming the N3 migration will also mess up those of us uning softcams?

Or will a new generation of decoding software beat them to it?

[waqasahmed]

No softcams will work when we move over to a newer encryption-methinks they're securing things before they release IPTV, seeing as though IPTV is pretty new and may be vulenerable. The companies really dont know. so if IPTV is hacked, they have something to fall back on