3_7 funcard fix here

[Ciwan]

Do we have StuntGuys FAQ in the Private FTA ? cause I couldn't find it

I know a bit of Assembly Language !

[G77]

Originally Posted by Ciwan

Do we have StuntGuys FAQ in the Private FTA ? cause I couldn't find it

I know a bit of Assembly Language !

well then your halfway there!

[PaddyBhoy]

Receiver requests card change
Card acknowledges request

I'm don't understand the IFS part but it would seem that the box is asking the card to change the size of the IFS to something larger than it the source code,therefore throwing out the timings.

Would i be right in assuming this?

[yusuf_gaz]

Hi

Ive not understood this yet but I think you on right track from what Ive read.

Regards

[Ciwan]

LOL OK !

Erm .. About the StuntGuys FAQ ?

I did a Google Search too, but nothing ! However I came across a place where they also recommended I read:

1) Chas1962 Newbie Guide
2) The Maestra Guide

Apparently Stuntguys FAQ is the most advanced ! So I guess for n00bs like me .. It'll be better if I start with the two guides mentioned above. But before I start .. are they relavant to Cable or are they for Satelitte ?

Thanks

Anyone know where I can find them ?

Thanks

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by PaddyBhoy

The difference between the two is seen on 3.7 log
21 C1 01 ; FE 1F
12 E1 01 ; FE 0C
this repeats itself on a number of occasions.

At last, somebody who's actually started to look !

And straight away you've spotted something very anomolous. Repeated IFS attempts.

Would this be down to the card either not getting or receiving a response from the box as it would expect.We would then need to figure out what info it is trying to send to understand how to fix it.

aha, do I see a glimour of hope here ?

Your on the right track but you need to look a bit closer.

Hint, the IFS is usually the first thing the box does when it resets the card.

Please forgive me if that appears totally idiotic as i'm trying to learn and get my head around this.

Its not idiotic at all, on the contrary, its the first sensible attempt to sort the problem i've seen in this thread !

[PaddyBhoy]

Originally Posted by Ciwan

LOL OK !

Erm .. About the StuntGuys FAQ ?

I did a Google Search too, but nothing ! However I came across a place where they also recommended I read:

1) Chas1962 Newbie Guide
2) The Maestra Guide

Apparently Stuntguys FAQ is the most advanced ! So I guess for n00bs like me .. It'll be better if I start with the two guides mentioned above. But before I start .. are they relavant to Cable or are they for Satelitte ?

Thanks

Anyone know where I can find them ?

Thanks

I only have the Stuntguys FAQ,which i can give you

[spikebaby]

set ifs = ( internal field seperater) when performing a command ..... At the semicolon the card or byyte command waits for the completion of any programs and commands that precede it, and then continues with a new command sequence in the new form.

Originally Posted by PaddyBhoy
The difference between the two is seen on 3.7 log
21 C1 01 ; FE 1F
12 E1 01 ; FE 0C
this repeats itself on a number of occasions.

Originally Posted by PaddyBhoy
The difference between the two is seen on 3.7 log
21 C1 01 ; FE 1F
12 E1 01 ; FE 0C
this repeats itself on a number of occasions

The question becomes whether the timing issue was created on the left or the right of the ; in this command

that i really dont know .......the above might be total cods wallop, but i have had a read, its over my head but trying to help others

[Tesla]

When a card is reset the first thing that happens is the card sends the ATR (answer to reset) string. This is transmitted at the initial baud rate of 372 cycles per second. The ATR has information that the box uses including information which tells the box from now on will be using a baud rate of 32 cycles per second. OK thats the ATR out of the way, the first command that is sent from your box to the card, after the ATR, is the information field size command which changes the default size 20 to a higher value.

So knowing that if you keep seeing repeated set ifs commands in the logs what do you think is happening???

PS -You will not see the ATR in the logs because it is transmitted at 372 clock cycles and the logger is logging at the nominal baud rate of 32 clock cycles. The logging software will normally have some kind of filtering that will reject 'garbage' information that does not have a normal command structure.

[timetrex]

Originally Posted by Tesla

When a card is reset the first thing that happens is the card sends the ATR (answer to reset) string. This is transmitted at the initial baud rate of 372 cycles per second. The ATR has information that the box uses including information which tells the box from now on will be using a baud rate of 32 cycles per second. OK thats the ATR out of the way, the first command that is sent from your box to the card, after the ATR, is the information field size command which changes the default size 20 to a higher value.

So knowing that if you keep seeing repeated set ifs commands in the logs what do you think is happening???

PS -You will not see the ATR in the logs because it is transmitted at 372 clock cycles and the logger is logging at the nominal baud rate of 32 clock cycles. The logging software will normally have some kind of filtering that will reject 'garbage' information that does not have a normal command structure.

With the repeated IFS you could say that the IRD has asked the smartcard to change its IFS, the cards being hardcoded with responses etc but I would think if it keeps asking to change it then the card was unable to change the ITS to the requested value.