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Jadugar · 03-11-09, 02:14 AM

As of now both my pace boxes are down because of funcards in them not coping with the new 3.7 software rollup. So I need to do MOSCs for them. Never done a MOSC before, so need some direction.

A have few old ntl rom 11 and rom 10 cards lying around. I don’t need any info from these cards i.e bk or ird. So

1.Can I erase those cards without unlooping them?

2.Which program and how do I do it?

Thanx in advance.

reddiesel · 03-11-09, 02:37 AM

You dont actually erase a rom card like a fun, you need to read it then you write a fresh image to it, try reading them first to see if any are not locked, if you have a B09 for instance you can use A3E/B09 dc2 patch in nagra edit 4.1, otherwise they will probably need an unlooper, it depends on the revision.

Jadugar · 03-11-09, 02:43 AM

After reading the card in nagraedit, this is what i get :

Opening of COM1 was successful
ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
30 31 31 20 52 65 76 42 30 44 3C
ROM Revision: 011
EEPROM Revision: RevB0D
ProviderID: 00
CamID: 00 00 00 00
Using BD3 Key: 4E 69 70 50 45 72 20 49 73 20 61 20 62 75 54 74
Attempting to login to BD3
BD3 login failed
Reading ROM11 failed
Closing of COM1 was successful

Does it need unlooping?

reddiesel · 03-11-09, 02:53 AM

Yes thats locked.

Jadugar · 03-11-09, 03:00 AM

Good news is that I have both the powersync and the dual unlooper.
Bad news is that I don’t know how to use them.

I have tried once setting the VCC but couldn’t get it to work. So I gave up after few tries.
What is the VCC suppose to be for Rom 11? VCC ceiling/ floor.

reddiesel · 03-11-09, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jadugar

Good news is that I have both the powersync and the dual unlooper.
Bad news is that I don’t know how to use them.

I have tried once setting the VCC but couldn’t get it to work. So I gave up after few tries.
What is the VCC suppose to be for Rom 11? VCC ceiling/ floor.

About 26-28 is ok, i use mikedata script in winexplorer .

Jadugar · 05-11-09, 11:32 PM

Ok, I have managed to unloop a Rom 10 Rev A86 card.

Opening of COM1 was successful
ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 A0 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
30 31 30 20 XX XX XX XX XX XX XX
ROM Revision: 010
EEPROM Revision: RevA86
ProviderID: 5C
CamID: 27 68 XX XX
Using BD3 Key: 4E 69 70 50 45 72 20 49 73 20 61 20 62 75 54 74
Attempting to login to BD3
BackDoor login verified
Dumping Dataspace
Backdoor retrieval has been blocked
Attempting to login to BD3
Attempting to login to BD0
Unable to login, bad password detected
Attempting to login to BD0
BackDoor login verified
Dumping CodeSpace
Reading ROM10 successful
Card read successfully
Efficiency: 75.2%, Packets: 145, Retries: 36, Time: 172.19s
Closing of COM1 was successful

Can I write an image to this card?

So which image should I use? I am in ex C&W area.

What do I need to alter in the image.

bK
ird ( 12 xx xx xx ) Its a pace.
Cam id ( Do all the cam ids have to match? )
Standard tier 8 : Just change the "Begin and expiry date".

BL4K3Y · 05-11-09, 11:47 PM

You certainly can mate and you need an Ex C&W ROM10 MOSC image. As for the CAM ID, it always starts with 27 for Ex C&W and you use numbers 0-9 and letters A-F. E.g 27 AB CD EF.

reddiesel · 06-11-09, 02:25 AM

Dont change begin date just rights and expiry if needed, all 3 cam id the same.
Read card then click on open card image top left and load image, click on data editor and edit in details ird ,bk etc, then write.

Nivida · 06-11-09, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jadugar

Ok, I have managed to unloop a Rom 10 Rev A86 card.

Opening of COM1 was successful
ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 A0 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
30 31 30 20 XX XX XX XX XX XX XX
ROM Revision: 010
EEPROM Revision: RevA86
ProviderID: 5C
CamID: 27 68 XX XX
Using BD3 Key: 4E 69 70 50 45 72 20 49 73 20 61 20 62 75 54 74
Attempting to login to BD3
BackDoor login verified
Dumping Dataspace
Backdoor retrieval has been blocked
Attempting to login to BD3
Attempting to login to BD0
Unable to login, bad password detected
Attempting to login to BD0
BackDoor login verified
Dumping CodeSpace
Reading ROM10 successful
Card read successfully
Efficiency: 75.2%, Packets: 145, Retries: 36, Time: 172.19s
Closing of COM1 was successful

Can I write an image to this card?

So which image should I use? I am in ex C&W area.

What do I need to alter in the image.

bK
ird ( 12 xx xx xx ) Its a pace.
Cam id ( Do all the cam ids have to match? )
Standard tier 8 : Just change the "Begin and expiry date".

iv got this far with a rom11 . but it still not let me write a new image to it .....get the bad password message ...any hints ...! ty

03-11-09, 02:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jadugar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 185 Thanks: 55 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	How to erase a MOSC and write a new image As of now both my pace boxes are down because of funcards in them not coping with the new 3.7 software rollup. So I need to do MOSCs for them. Never done a MOSC before, so need some direction. A have few old ntl rom 11 and rom 10 cards lying around. I don’t need any info from these cards i.e bk or ird. So 1.Can I erase those cards without unlooping them? 2.Which program and how do I do it? Thanx in advance.

03-11-09, 02:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
reddiesel Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Beds Posts: 5,708 Thanks: 176 Thanked 957 Times in 839 Posts	Re: How to erase a MOSC and write a new image You dont actually erase a rom card like a fun, you need to read it then you write a fresh image to it, try reading them first to see if any are not locked, if you have a B09 for instance you can use A3E/B09 dc2 patch in nagra edit 4.1, otherwise they will probably need an unlooper, it depends on the revision. __________________

03-11-09, 02:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jadugar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 185 Thanks: 55 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Re: How to erase a MOSC and write a new image After reading the card in nagraedit, this is what i get : Opening of COM1 was successful ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx 30 31 31 20 52 65 76 42 30 44 3C ROM Revision: 011 EEPROM Revision: RevB0D ProviderID: 00 CamID: 00 00 00 00 Using BD3 Key: 4E 69 70 50 45 72 20 49 73 20 61 20 62 75 54 74 Attempting to login to BD3 BD3 login failed Reading ROM11 failed Closing of COM1 was successful Does it need unlooping?

03-11-09, 02:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
reddiesel Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Beds Posts: 5,708 Thanks: 176 Thanked 957 Times in 839 Posts	Re: How to erase a MOSC and write a new image Yes thats locked. __________________

03-11-09, 03:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jadugar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 185 Thanks: 55 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Re: How to erase a MOSC and write a new image Good news is that I have both the powersync and the dual unlooper. Bad news is that I don’t know how to use them. I have tried once setting the VCC but couldn’t get it to work. So I gave up after few tries. What is the VCC suppose to be for Rom 11? VCC ceiling/ floor.

05-11-09, 11:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jadugar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 185 Thanks: 55 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Re: How to erase a MOSC and write a new image Ok, I have managed to unloop a Rom 10 Rev A86 card. Opening of COM1 was successful ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 A0 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50 30 31 30 20 XX XX XX XX XX XX XX ROM Revision: 010 EEPROM Revision: RevA86 ProviderID: 5C CamID: 27 68 XX XX Using BD3 Key: 4E 69 70 50 45 72 20 49 73 20 61 20 62 75 54 74 Attempting to login to BD3 BackDoor login verified Dumping Dataspace Backdoor retrieval has been blocked Attempting to login to BD3 Attempting to login to BD0 Unable to login, bad password detected Attempting to login to BD0 BackDoor login verified Dumping CodeSpace Reading ROM10 successful Card read successfully Efficiency: 75.2%, Packets: 145, Retries: 36, Time: 172.19s Closing of COM1 was successful Can I write an image to this card? So which image should I use? I am in ex C&W area. What do I need to alter in the image. bK ird ( 12 xx xx xx ) Its a pace. Cam id ( Do all the cam ids have to match? ) Standard tier 8 : Just change the "Begin and expiry date".

05-11-09, 11:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
BL4K3Y Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 7,004 Thanks: 247 Thanked 1,319 Times in 1,211 Posts	Re: How to erase a MOSC and write a new image You certainly can mate and you need an Ex C&W ROM10 MOSC image. As for the CAM ID, it always starts with 27 for Ex C&W and you use numbers 0-9 and letters A-F. E.g 27 AB CD EF.

06-11-09, 02:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
reddiesel Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Beds Posts: 5,708 Thanks: 176 Thanked 957 Times in 839 Posts	Re: How to erase a MOSC and write a new image Dont change begin date just rights and expiry if needed, all 3 cam id the same. Read card then click on open card image top left and load image, click on data editor and edit in details ird ,bk etc, then write. __________________

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