Nagravision 3 (THE FACTS)

[kano]

VM (United Kingdom) (Nagravision 1 being phased out, currently switching to Nagravision 3)

Ok...........I'm not an expert when it comes to this type of thing but then again neither is half the members on here. but these are the facts of N/3

What i understand is Nagra3 is a system that basicly works by changing keys several times throughout the day, causing great inconvenience to unauthorized viewers. It's like a private network and you wont be able to view anything unless your invited by Nagravision to do so.....(hence the new card) that will be your invite..!!

But not many people know or fail to understand is IT CAN BE HACKED IT HAS BEEN HACKED and it's all done through Card hackers the nagra3 has been beaten but only through card hackers. The chance of Eurovox cracking the system is acually quite high..!! it will just take time and money cause you buy the box not the card so it's up too Eurovox to make a firmware that acts like a smart card...But eurovox cant do nothing till the system is launced...for obvious reasons !!

As Eurovox's work now it's just a simple scan of the system that cracks/bypasses V/M's encryption with the firmware..........Simple!!!!!
once this Nagra3 is rolled 100% the hackers will roll the cards 100% and we all know how much we can pay for one of these cards..



Yep........think around the £200 mark easy.......... or we can wait for the Eurovox team to make a new hack/firmware that will beat the nagra3 and this could take months if not around a year for them to accomplish... So dont listen to these people that suck nagra3's bum like it's a new generation of encryption that Nooooobody can hack cause it's all a load of b@ll@x...

(Quoted by Wikipedia on the nagra3 system)

''Card hackers have, however, continued to compromise the encryption system, with continued software and key releases being made available to the public. Software emulation of the Nagravision system has been implemented in many Free-To-Air Satellite receivers, allowing unauthorised viewing to those who do not own an official card.''

Ouch..!!!!!!

[martin-f]

you learn something new everyday

[kerrywez]

I was trying to get that smiley, which I stole from your post last night Martin, to work on another post by this guy. He has really done his homework.

Regards Wez

[Rick]

OMG not another one.

[kerrywez]

Could some Mod please, please, please close this ridiculous thread, before we get more like him adding to it or some taking this cr&p seriously. And whilst you are at it please remove his other post which is the exact same as this, your reason can, if one were needed, double posting.

Regards Wez

[hethemlrijk]

all of that post is rubbish my friend sorry to say it. it contains more pairing systems and has a much stronger algo than nagra (1800) and 1801+. if you really thing just because virgin are using these cards that it will just pop right open you have another thought coming, the nagra encryption (the latest revision known to the hacking world as nagra 3) has been running on almost all cable, satelite and terrestrial providers that dont use NDS, and its not even being cracked in the 3 or 4 years that its been on the stream in these places. CS is obviously a way round it, but with so little information about VMs implementation it is unknown whether they are utilising the RSA key to its full potential, it will be very hard to find the key aswell, since we have no specific RSA to look for. usually we would dump the reciever in full and look for the string that we have found from the card, alas this is not possible here as we are jumping from 1800 to 1850 we do not know what the pairing key is to the box from our previous card like they could in ireland due to the nagra 2 cards being openable to obtain the key.

[kano]

I dont know how you lot can be so sure you must think your the coders or something but leave it at that and i'll be back to say i told you so...

[Robbo]

One thread already on this subject, no need to start another one.