'96 Peugeot 306 td wiring faults. - Techwatch: Satellite TV forums, FTA, Cable, Hardware, & Tech forums

delambo · 03-05-06, 10:37 PM

I have a very confusing one at the moment. My customer parked their car on double yellows with no tax (silly boy) and got his car towed away

When he went to collect the car the subcontractor had bypassed the keypad and cut a new key so he could drive it away. Trouble is since getting it back it has developed lots of problems.

1) The radio has lost its permenant live and now is ignition switched so keeps losing its stored channels.

2) The central locking has lost its permenant feed and the central locking only works with the key in the ignition and switched on:ermm:

3)The ir reciever for the remote central locking has also lost its permenant live so the remote doesnt work.

4) When you switch the ignition on the green light comes on the keypad staright away so you dont need to enter the code.

I have had a good look around the areas I would naturally think to look to see if they have modified the wiring in any way, but I can see nothing they would have done. I have checked around the ignition switch, the keypad, the central locking control module the fuse board, the coded anti start relay etc but I cant see any modified wiring

The sticker on the side of the keypad over the joint is still intact so they have not read or modified the code in the keypad micro (unless by diagnostic socket).

Does anyone have any ideas from experience or better still a decent (well better than the one in haynes) wiring diagram?

delambo · 05-05-06, 12:27 AM

...Or even just a location for the immobiliser control unit?

jakeyfly · 05-05-06, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by delambo

...Or even just a location for the immobiliser control unit?

is the keypad not the control unit on this working with the dde or smart soleniod.
whats engine code, what pump you got.
had a quick look and have no info on this, but if you can give more info i will see if CAP's has anything on the immo side tomorrow.
sounds just like its lost a main feed someware, there aint a missing fuse is there have had that a few times, but no one ever ownes up to removing it

delambo · 06-05-06, 12:33 AM

Its the Lucas/Delphi pump with the smart solonoid which has not been tampered with - nor has the coded anti start relay by the battery. All fuses are present and correct as are all feeds in to the fuse board - this was the first thing I checked as you say I have seen plenty of this before, fuses magicly disintgrating. If you feed the terminal on the keypad which should be a terminal 30 feed (but is now a terminal 15 feed) permenantly it all works OK but when you switch the ignition off the engine continues to run. I am guessing they have removed and bridged a relay or cut and connected 2 wires which should not be connected. I am trying to convince someone on another forum who has the wiring info that I am legit and not just about to use his info to go stealing! If I can get that info it should be childsplay.

jakeyfly · 06-05-06, 12:45 AM

will have a dig about tomorrow see what i can find. i must say this all seems a bit strange, do you trust what the guy is saying, and there was no faults before hand?

delambo · 06-05-06, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jakeyfly

do you trust what the guy is saying, and there was no faults before hand?

Yeah, he used to be a mechanic. I went to tech with him and he got level 3 C&G so hes pretty clued up. He only left the trade because he could earn more money as a printer!

jakeyfly · 08-05-06, 02:10 AM

sorry mate but i cant find any wiring diagrams on this, i have checked everywhere, newer stuf no probs but nothing with that keypad
good luck

delambo · 08-05-06, 10:45 AM

No worries mate, thanks for looking. I have managed to convince the bloke on the other forum that I am legit, but now he is asking that I join the Peugeot owners club, and advertise my business in their news letter before he will send the diagram. I have submitted a form requesting membership, but I dont hold out much hope as I dont own a Peugeot!!

03-05-06, 10:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
delambo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: infront of my pc Posts: 521 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	'96 Peugeot 306 td wiring faults. I have a very confusing one at the moment. My customer parked their car on double yellows with no tax (silly boy) and got his car towed away When he went to collect the car the subcontractor had bypassed the keypad and cut a new key so he could drive it away. Trouble is since getting it back it has developed lots of problems. 1) The radio has lost its permenant live and now is ignition switched so keeps losing its stored channels. 2) The central locking has lost its permenant feed and the central locking only works with the key in the ignition and switched on:ermm: 3)The ir reciever for the remote central locking has also lost its permenant live so the remote doesnt work. 4) When you switch the ignition on the green light comes on the keypad staright away so you dont need to enter the code. I have had a good look around the areas I would naturally think to look to see if they have modified the wiring in any way, but I can see nothing they would have done. I have checked around the ignition switch, the keypad, the central locking control module the fuse board, the coded anti start relay etc but I cant see any modified wiring The sticker on the side of the keypad over the joint is still intact so they have not read or modified the code in the keypad micro (unless by diagnostic socket). Does anyone have any ideas from experience or better still a decent (well better than the one in haynes) wiring diagram? __________________ If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

05-05-06, 12:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
delambo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: infront of my pc Posts: 521 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: '96 Peugeot 306 td wiring faults. ...Or even just a location for the immobiliser control unit? __________________ If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

06-05-06, 12:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
delambo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: infront of my pc Posts: 521 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: '96 Peugeot 306 td wiring faults. Its the Lucas/Delphi pump with the smart solonoid which has not been tampered with - nor has the coded anti start relay by the battery. All fuses are present and correct as are all feeds in to the fuse board - this was the first thing I checked as you say I have seen plenty of this before, fuses magicly disintgrating. If you feed the terminal on the keypad which should be a terminal 30 feed (but is now a terminal 15 feed) permenantly it all works OK but when you switch the ignition off the engine continues to run. I am guessing they have removed and bridged a relay or cut and connected 2 wires which should not be connected. I am trying to convince someone on another forum who has the wiring info that I am legit and not just about to use his info to go stealing! If I can get that info it should be childsplay. __________________ If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

06-05-06, 12:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
jakeyfly Super Drunk Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 260 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: '96 Peugeot 306 td wiring faults. will have a dig about tomorrow see what i can find. i must say this all seems a bit strange, do you trust what the guy is saying, and there was no faults before hand?

08-05-06, 02:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
jakeyfly Super Drunk Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 260 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: '96 Peugeot 306 td wiring faults. sorry mate but i cant find any wiring diagrams on this, i have checked everywhere, newer stuf no probs but nothing with that keypad good luck


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08-05-06, 10:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
delambo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: infront of my pc Posts: 521 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: '96 Peugeot 306 td wiring faults. No worries mate, thanks for looking. I have managed to convince the bloke on the other forum that I am legit, but now he is asking that I join the Peugeot owners club, and advertise my business in their news letter before he will send the diagram. I have submitted a form requesting membership, but I dont hold out much hope as I dont own a Peugeot!! __________________ If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.