some N3 CARD INFO

[River-Rat]

My installer mate told me a few things about the card today and thought i would share.

This could all be BS , so sorry if misleading:

This is what he told me:

The n3 cards in my area are causing nothing but trouble. About a hr after the box and new card are paired, the card makes all channels freeze for 2 secs when changing channels. I have had to return to all my jobs and replace with rom11 cards. After chatted to OPS ( place for hits ) they are telling me that every hr , the card resets itself and re pairs itself ( this i beleive is the card looking for keys? ) Also he heard from a tester, that the N3 cards at night reset them selfs for a new code and report back to VM its usage

[kerrywez]

So what area you in mate, just curious as the only areas that have been using the cards have been Leeds/York, so wondering how this is happening if you are not in that area and presumably neither is your installer?

Regards Wez

[River-Rat]

im in the same area mate in sussex ( i posted we got new cards to installers last week ), im a ex installer of 5 years so i know all about installers and his been doing it for 2 years and trust him as i do all his boxes for him

im hoping to get one of the hit cards, to send to someone to read

[kerrywez]

Thanks mate.

Regards Wez

[River-Rat]

no worrys

[TheCoder]

The cards are working fine in most boxes and exactly as planned but, as with any change, there will always be problem boxes that have difficulty. In most cases, if a box is having difficulty then the engineer should simply be replacing the box. They should not be re-installing old cards as these will be obsolete in a few weeks and then yet another visit will be required.

every hr , the card resets itself and re pairs itself ( this i beleive is the card looking for keys? )

Thats perfectly proper behaviour for the card. Every two or so hours the card must complete a pairing operation that generates/exchanges a completely new operational pairing keyset. After pairing, the card will encrypt all returned cw's with the new keyset.

The card isn't looking for keys at this point, it actually generates a new keyset and informs the stb of this by requesting a new pairing sequence. On seeing the request the stb should initiate a full pairing sequence and then use the new keyset.

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by River-Rat

im hoping to get one of the hit cards, to send to someone to read

You wont be able to read an N3 card if thats your intention. For the moment, at least, these things are fully secure.

[River-Rat]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

You wont be able to read an N3 card if thats your intention. For the moment, at least, these things are fully secure.

thanks for your import i didnt mean me to read it, but someone like yourself with the tech knowledge

[lambo]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

The cards are working fine in most boxes and exactly as planned but, as with any change, there will always be problem boxes that have difficulty. In most cases, if a box is having difficulty then the engineer should simply be replacing the box. They should not be re-installing old cards as these will be obsolete in a few weeks and then yet another visit will be required.

This is how it was done in Ireland

[kerrywez]

Originally Posted by lambo

This is how it was done in Ireland

So you know more than anyone else on here. NOBODY has hacked anything to do with N3, by reading cards. Anything that is on Irish channels is using CS as far as I am aware. You are quite welcome the the channels you get from Chorus, just what is wrong with the brains of those who pay them €80 for the cr&p they have on is beyond me.

Regards Wez