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Old 27-03-10, 04:41 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I have a really nice digital oscilloscope with built in logic analyser and spectrum analyser.. So if you could point me in the right direction, I'm sure to have this N3 hacked by tea time.
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Old 27-03-10, 05:02 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 27-03-10, 05:07 PM   #43 (permalink)
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You can all start bidding for the oscilloscope that cracked N3.
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Old 27-03-10, 05:53 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I have a really nice digital oscilloscope with built in logic analyser and spectrum analyser.. So if you could point me in the right direction, I'm sure to have this N3 hacked by tea time.
Sell the oscilloscope (its useless for this task) and buy some tools more appropriate to the job. Various chemical supplies, Microscope, Microprobes, Sequencers etc would be a nice starting point.
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I'll just start making the tea then lol
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Old 28-03-10, 02:15 PM   #46 (permalink)
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well now we could club togeather and set up an electronic hobby club that tinkers with all things c....e.all free to join .
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Sky has already announced their VOD plans, they should roll out in the summer. It will only be available on HD boxes with an ethernet port as far as I know.

Its called Anytime+, I don't think it will be upto much, I would advise people to stick with Virgin.
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Old 29-03-10, 10:37 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Before you start reading I must warn you that this is in depth and intended to be a useful guide, not an excuse by many to hurl abuse or start of panic amongst the remaining lucky ones. I have been asked to give detailed guide from within the depths of the software wizards departments.
I do not want money and will not be releasing K**Ys, however I will give you the latest news, remove any doubt over the various rumours and myths flying around.

Firstly I can assure you that experts in this field are currently working night and day, living on Pop tarts and Red Bull in an attempt to find a solution to the latest switch off.

Latest Area to be hit was the area known as Kirklees, which includes Huddersfield, firstly a number of channels moved, then VM rang to offer 2 months free, closely followed by SLY offer great new deals, then the new cards arrived. 2 weeks later black screens and Scrambled Channels, for a further 4 days a number of premier channels including Sly sports 1-4, Sly 1, V1 etc stayed on, as VM checked to ensure that all paying clients had not been disrupted. Once this was confirmed it was blackout for almost every Channel.
Incredibly the initial results from Eire and Leeds suggested that subscription rose but way short of expectations for VM, however Sly subscriptions rocketed by comparison with most new customers taking up HD subscriptions. Saying this both companies did expect a much higher take up of their services.

As so often other alternatives started to appear, C**d Share, Internet solutions, Freeview Sat Hacks etc. At the same time the scammers, con men and idiots started to release false hopes and claims, many you have probably seen whilst searching for a fix, these include Ebay lots claiming to have K*ys for sale, New boxes that will work no matter what, new Firmware from foreign countries and the old my mates, pals farther has.... etc

So where are we really at. There is a lot of companies out there from manufactures to distributers who stand to lose insane amounts of profit, they have become accustomed to. They have a vested interest in getting things back to how it was before, when they produce Fully legal Free to Air boxes at 5 times the cost of a box say from Argos. Rest assured that those with a vested interest have thrown every available resource at this. They may already have a solution,. If so would it be viable to release this until they felt that VM had stretched the budget enough not to upgrade on such a scale again, would it not be wise to hold back until the majority of the UK had been upgraded.

In saying that, resellers have been work hard individually and together as a collective, to find a solution and 3 promising lines have been brought to my attention.
The first is based on Portugal and in a smaller part Spain, where an N3 equivalent has been opened up for some time now, with a little searching on the web you can find every line of code used within the encryption, and the coding applied to open the channels up. It is possible to manually feed in K*ys at the moment for certain boxes, but they tend to expire quickly, even then by using the USB port and a basic computer this can result in almost seamless viewing. This said it is a question of which boxes could emulate a computer to achieve this.

The second line of investigation follows on from the above, where new chips need to be added to existing boxes, thereby allowing them to have enough power to generate K*Ys. The down side of this is the skill level required to remove and then replace chips and the basic cost of these rumoured to be £58 per unit. I have to say I can’t see retailers been to keen to publicly advertise this service.

The 3<SUP>rd</SUP> line is the new generator coding scripts, uploaded as before. The problem is they are having extreme difficulty in descrambling encryption in nearly all the old doggy boxes, even those supplied by the VM engineers. New boxes would of course make the manufacturer happy and rich once again. VM have been aware of the issues of their own engineers assisting people wanting extra channels, so much so that most people are now getting self install kits sent by post.

My conclusions are that if there is a fix already out there with the manufacturers then this will only be released when they feel they can get the most both in life cycle and profit. If the distributer find a solution they will want it out as quick as possible for everyone and probably for free, as most will be sat on stock piles of boxes (currently classed as dead money).
Don’t give up hope yet as it will only be a matter of time before a solution is released, be aware of scams and get the old DVD collection out for a while.
I hope this helps everyone who has had the patience to read my ramblings.
One post and come up with that kind of crap,why are people thanking this nutter
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One post and come up with that kind of crap,why are people thanking this nutter
Well said m8...ive been asking myself the same question for a couple of weeks now..lol
But seriously tho it was one of the most uninformative badly written posts that stated the obvious(dressed up with fantasy bits which originated from the mind of a single cell organism)that ive ever seen and totally unnecessary...which with a bit of luck he probably regrets now...maybe!!??
also BIGUP!! to TheCoder for taking time to tear his post apart piece by piece...and with great integrity.
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