1080p input on 32" LCD?

[tinto de verano]

Hi there,
I wonder if you can help me:
I've noticed that there are only one or two 32" LCDs claiming to be Full HD, that is 1080p (and they cost as much as some 40/42 special offer LCDs!).
Most are HD ready (resolution: 1366 × 768) only.
I've noticed some of the newer 32" LCDs have a "1080p input" or "1080 direct input" or similar badge.
Now, the question is what does that badge really mean and does it make any difference whether a 32" LCD has "1080p input" or not (still 768 lines, not 1080!)?
In other words: any difference if connecting a PS3, XBox360 or BluRay/HD DVD player with a 1080p feed?
Thanks.
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[Josh]

Well 1080p is the hd dvd standard, all the rest will look worse. If it's HD sat then 1080p doesn't offer anything else more than 1080i. I find when I switch my 1080i sat signal into 720p I can detect the difference.

Probably best to QA the picture with the source standard of your choice in a shop.

[tinto de verano]

Hi Josh,
Thanks for your answer.
tinto de verano

PS: In case anybody else might be interested, here's another answer I got in another forum:
Some will simply not accept a 1080p feed, result blank screen. Those that will take a 1080p feed simply downscale it to suit.

And this is my summary (which has not yet been confirmed, mind you):
I thought they would all downscale, never thought of some just showing a black screen!
I guess that means that:
1) For a "1080p input" LCD: I can select 1080p in the source/player, feed it to the LCD and the LCD will downscale it and show it as a 720p picture.
2) For a NON "1080p input" LCD: I have to select 720p in the source/player, feed it to the LCD and the LCD will show it as a 720p picture.
Correct? No picture quality differences?
Thanks again.
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[LEXMARK]

try looking at this web site http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdt...ceptions.shtml and good luck

[LEXMARK]

can any one help me out i have a echostar 2110 v / what lcd tv would it work on the best hd or full hd or would i be better of getting a plasma

[Josh]

I'm a plasma boy myself but those lcd guys fight hard . Basically sales assistants tell you that plasma is no good and lcd is better if they thnk you can't afford it. The other element is how well the electronics scale and manipulate the image in real time. LCD screens are slow and tend to go blocky on a camera pan in football of the background, plasma can handle it better.

Now full lcd or plasmas plasmas you would expect to handle 1080p in their native mode. Last years Panasonics apparently do convert to 1080i if given 1080p so I understand. Mines 600sx 42" as I recall. This years latest models are full 1080p with the dot resolution.

On imaging and all of that if you are using a sat hd box you allow it to upscale sd to 1080i so you get the rock solid graphics else everything goes wooly when you switch from hd to sd since the menus of the box down grade, so that's howI do it with my sat box.

ps on plasma and saving the world just turn down the heating when the tv is on, it works for me .

[natoma]

Just my two cents. I bought a Samsung Full HD 37'' LCD TV, to be the companion of a CT 5000 HD Sat decoder, and a BR disk reader.
From Italy I can watch Suisse HD which trasmits in 720p and Pro Sieben HD which trasmits in 1080i (I don't have any Sky HD abbo). The Swiss images are very sharp and detailed in my opinion, while the German ones are not so different form any SD channel. Both of them are upscaled to 1080p by either the TV or the deco itself (I prefer the TV upscaling, probably has a better algorithm). The big difference in sat HD in my opinion is the bandwidth. You can trasmit in 1080, but if you apply too much compression then you start seeing artifacts during scenes with movement.
My knowledge (I surfed several months the web before buying) is that resolution is also linked to viewing distance.
If you're planning to watch your TV from very near then go Full HD (after all is PS3 and BR native resolution), otherwise you cannot see too much difference and you've better go for quality. Just to give you an idea, my 37'' Full HD shines on BR and HD sat up to 1.5~2mt. After that it's difficult to tell if it's a SD DVD or a BR.
I suggest you have a tour of the malls around you just to check for yourself the sets you are considering (of course you can always buy them on the Internet :wink_smile: ). Too bad many times the TVs are poorly set up, and lights do not help.

[Josh]

Well full HD won't give you anything extra than 1080i since that's the best they broadcast in. Sat broadcaster will never go to full HD 1080p due to bandwidth, that's the learned view.

Agree, spend hours in the malls checking out the pictures, that's what I did. Study the movement in pan shots to make sure the picture doesn't block up when it should move gracefully. Basically you have the HD issues of compression as touched on so even grass pitches in football matches can look pretty bad when the camera pans. Then you have whether the TV can keep up with the movement and I think this one is an SD issue on upscaling.

LCDs traditionally couldn't handle fast movement so not much good if you wish to watch sports . Saying that I am aware of an issue with my plasma that I haven't got down to the bottom of which is how clouds in the sky don't graduate but go in layers of colours. One sees this in HD and SD. I haven't seen this in this year's Panasonic models. That effect annoys me but I don't seem to be able to do anything about it.

[LEXMARK]

i look at plasma and lcd, plasma still has the jump on lcd / lcd seem to have to many if and buts can not make up my mine on them , as plasma you only have to make sure you get the new filter system and full hd but as i been told not many are tranmiting in full hd if any untill 2012 them not much point of having full hd / as said before lcd are just good for airoplanes / as plasma no good pass 6,500 ft. anyway good luck all. / remeber when buying lcd you need responce time 5ms or less and samsung are meant to be the best.

[Josh]

1080p in 2012 ?. A sporting date perhaps .

1080i is Ok if you don't plan to watch high def dvd's and don't plan to sit closer than 6 ft or something. Last year there we're any plasmas that did 1080p.

I love my plasma... this burn thing that you hear about is retention just don't leave it switched on to a news channel all day with a manner.