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21-02-07, 05:27 PM

Hi m8's

I have a few years in the sat side of educational cams/cards etc... I would be grateful on receiving information on what .bin (software) and cards you use for clearing NTL.

Now, do you require both a chipped box and card ( fun/tit etc.) or can you run a fun/tit card on a normal box to clear.

Thanks in advance

rx...

clogman · 21-02-07, 05:34 PM

depens on what box

u need to cut the talk back then run a funcard or tit amega but you need the box key ete

21-02-07, 05:39 PM

i have both fun card (1,2 and 7) and tit cards, can i use anyones boxkey from someone that pays for a sub? (or am i complicating it).

So, lets say im armed with, smart cards, phoenix infinity programmer & and box key, it sounds like i need a set top box which enables me to enter the box key as cards dont. Can you recommend any?

Cheers

clogman · 21-02-07, 08:39 PM

first of all what box have you ?

u cannot use some one eles box key un less u want to clone the boxes then if he gets cut off so do u ok

the best card i fine is amega for me
easy to program but every one to the own
but you need the ird/box key for start to the box u have

21-02-07, 08:50 PM

hey clogman thanks for your reply.

I have no Cable tv atm, i use technomate 5500 for a motorised system however, im thinking of going dreambox 7020 route for sat viewing, can one of these (dreambox) be used for cable tv too, that would be ideal?

If so, where would i get a box key from? I assume, i would have to subscribe to a basic package then turn off talk back (somehow, need more info) but use the dreambox (STB) for opening channels, i maybe well off.

Then finally, once i have turned off talk back, wont that alarm N*L that somert is strange?

Cheers and many thanks for all the help you can provide. I have an email addy if its easier to discuss off board.

Thank you.

lincsat · 22-02-07, 12:56 AM

If you are using a genuine Cable TV box, then you need the box key. Like Sky the box is paired to the card. With a Dreambox, you do not need a box key. AIUI, some Dreambox models you can get both satellite and cable tuners.

22-02-07, 10:54 AM

hi lincsat,

Ok great so do all dreamboxes open cable and sat or are there 1 or 2 models. I'd hate to purchase a DB to only to find out its bloody the wrong model

I understand the images for Sat, what images are req for Cable, if any?

Cheers

My email if its best discussed off board jus1974@hotmail.com

22-02-07, 01:21 PM

OK so here is my take.

1. Dreambox 500c, DBOX2 etc... can all connect to cable without the need of a box key potentially clearing all channels, you take a link from your ORIGINAL STB that still talks back.

2. Standard cable boxes and open channels by use of smart card (fun files) providing the talk back is cut off. However, this method can be traced as there is no talk back yet there is power going through the cable.

Therefore, purchasing no 1 with the basic package without the need of cards and there is no talk back from the "after market" STB but it still talks back through the standard STB.

Am i correct?

lincsat · 22-02-07, 01:47 PM

Pretty much - here's a dreambox thread for you to look at - http://www.techwatch.co.uk/dbox2-eur...-a-newbie.html

22-02-07, 01:54 PM

Yeah thats me

I think i have found my answers, the answer being NO there is no one box that can open both cable and SAT. It's basically 500c for cable and the other dreamboxes for SAT, i have been advised to stay clear of the DB7025 too.

I would also like to thank the people for their support.

Cheers...

21-02-07, 05:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
mr rx Guest Posts: n/a	NTL and Fun files Hi m8's I have a few years in the sat side of educational cams/cards etc... I would be grateful on receiving information on what .bin (software) and cards you use for clearing NTL. Now, do you require both a chipped box and card ( fun/tit etc.) or can you run a fun/tit card on a normal box to clear. Thanks in advance rx...

21-02-07, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
clogman Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NTL and Fun files depens on what box u need to cut the talk back then run a funcard or tit amega but you need the box key ete

21-02-07, 05:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
mr rx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NTL and Fun files i have both fun card (1,2 and 7) and tit cards, can i use anyones boxkey from someone that pays for a sub? (or am i complicating it). So, lets say im armed with, smart cards, phoenix infinity programmer & and box key, it sounds like i need a set top box which enables me to enter the box key as cards dont. Can you recommend any? Cheers

21-02-07, 08:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
clogman Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NTL and Fun files first of all what box have you ? u cannot use some one eles box key un less u want to clone the boxes then if he gets cut off so do u ok the best card i fine is amega for me easy to program but every one to the own but you need the ird/box key for start to the box u have

21-02-07, 08:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
mr rx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NTL and Fun files hey clogman thanks for your reply. I have no Cable tv atm, i use technomate 5500 for a motorised system however, im thinking of going dreambox 7020 route for sat viewing, can one of these (dreambox) be used for cable tv too, that would be ideal? If so, where would i get a box key from? I assume, i would have to subscribe to a basic package then turn off talk back (somehow, need more info) but use the dreambox (STB) for opening channels, i maybe well off. Then finally, once i have turned off talk back, wont that alarm N*L that somert is strange? Cheers and many thanks for all the help you can provide. I have an email addy if its easier to discuss off board. Thank you.

22-02-07, 12:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
lincsat Super-Dooper Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In front of the PC Posts: 6,004 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2,580 Times in 667 Posts	Re: NTL and Fun files If you are using a genuine Cable TV box, then you need the box key. Like Sky the box is paired to the card. With a Dreambox, you do not need a box key. AIUI, some Dreambox models you can get both satellite and cable tuners.

22-02-07, 10:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
mr rx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NTL and Fun files hi lincsat, Ok great so do all dreamboxes open cable and sat or are there 1 or 2 models. I'd hate to purchase a DB to only to find out its bloody the wrong model I understand the images for Sat, what images are req for Cable, if any? Cheers My email if its best discussed off board jus1974@hotmail.com

22-02-07, 01:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
mr rx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NTL and Fun files OK so here is my take. 1. Dreambox 500c, DBOX2 etc... can all connect to cable without the need of a box key potentially clearing all channels, you take a link from your ORIGINAL STB that still talks back. 2. Standard cable boxes and open channels by use of smart card (fun files) providing the talk back is cut off. However, this method can be traced as there is no talk back yet there is power going through the cable. Therefore, purchasing no 1 with the basic package without the need of cards and there is no talk back from the "after market" STB but it still talks back through the standard STB. Am i correct? Last edited by mr rx; 22-02-07 at 01:26 PM.

22-02-07, 01:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
lincsat Super-Dooper Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In front of the PC Posts: 6,004 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2,580 Times in 667 Posts	Re: NTL and Fun files Pretty much - here's a dreambox thread for you to look at - http://www.techwatch.co.uk/dbox2-eur...-a-newbie.html

22-02-07, 01:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
mr rx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NTL and Fun files Yeah thats me I think i have found my answers, the answer being NO there is no one box that can open both cable and SAT. It's basically 500c for cable and the other dreamboxes for SAT, i have been advised to stay clear of the DB7025 too. I would also like to thank the people for their support. Cheers...